If we turn to veg what will you do for your food?

Updated on April 9, 2019 in General
3 on March 27, 2019

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

Adiyen heard this as a counter argument to vegetarianism.

Is it difficult to support world population with vegetarian food?

Dasanudasan

 
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Sri Ramanuja Munaye Namaha,

Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Guruve Namaha,

Asmadh Sarva Gurubyo Namaha,

 

 

Dear BhagavAta,

 

Adiyen has heard in couple of Enpani’s where Swami has mentioned about staying away from persons who does counter argument and their job is to keep counter question based on the answer that is given. They don’t have a firm goal of what to establish, or follow the good things that is known. Their odd life style will provide them answer slowly of what is correct method.

 

In this case itself, consider if BhagavAta is able to gather actual facts/evidences that there is enough vegetarian resources to provide to all human beings, then immediately their next counter question will be “Ok, now I don’t have options to decide what I wanted to eat“. So, this will never end, and our Bhakthi will reduce if we are in contact with such persons. So, we Bhaktas should focus on what we follow in a view and prostrate to BhagaVAn that “Others should also follow all the good deeds like us with Acharya krupai“. BhagaVAn has the ABILITY to change things, if HE wishes to do so, instead of exhibiting HIS “Udaseenathvam” Kalayana Gunam in places where it is not necessary. Acharyas says BhagavAn SriKrishna is KARUNAI KADAL.

 

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Regarding this Vegetarianism topic, Adiyen has heard in Upanyasmas that ThiruValluvar (திருவள்ளுவர்) is a Shisya of “Vishnu Chittar” who is nothing but Periya Alwar ( ThiruThapgappanaar of Sri Andal Nachiyar).

 

ThiruvAlluaAr says,

நீ புலாலை மறுத்தால், கொல்லும் தொழிலை செயபவன் அதை மறுத்து விடுவான்

[If one denies eating meat, the persons who does the Butcher business will Stop Killing and Selling meat, Iraivan (BhagavAN) will provide him another Job].

So the General Public has the responsibility to follow good things and avoid bad things. As long as the General public does wrong things, the Wrong thing Sellers will exist.

 

Also there is an ODD PAzha Mozhi floating around “கொன்றால் பாவம் தின்றால் போச்சு

One May thing that the Sin acquired by killing animal is resolved when the same person eat it. This is a pathetic wrong propagation by wrong doers. There is NO such thing in BhagavAn’s dictionary (Shastras).

 

So inorder to teach lesson to the Wrong Doers/Propagators, what BhagavAn does is, கொன்றால் பாவம் (The Sin accumulated by the Butcher) is TRANSFERRED to the Person who buys and EAT the meat (தின்றால் போச்சு). Considering this, NO ONE SHOULD BUY MEAT AS WELL, since they themselves have enough troubles/Karmas in their life, then why would one go and get the Butchers Paapam as well, but still people keep probating wrong meaning.

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குறள்:251

தன்னூன் பெருக்கற்குத் தான்பிறிது ஊனுண்பான்
எங்ஙனம் ஆளும் அருள்.

 

Meaning:

தன் உடம்பைப் பெருக்கச் செய்வதற்காகத், தான் மற்றோர் உயிரின் உடம்பை உண்பவன் பிற உயிர்களிடத்தில் எவ்வாறு அருளை உடையவனாக இருக்க முடியும்?

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குறள்:260

கொல்லான் புலாலை மறுத்தானைக் கைகூப்பி

எல்லா உயிருந் தொழும்.

 

Meaning:

ஓருயிரையும் கொல்லாமல் புலால் உண்ணாமல் வாழ்கின்றவனை உலகத்தில் உள்ள எல்லா உயிர்களும் கைகூப்பி வணங்கும்.

[One who LIVES without Harming any animals and without Eating any animals, ALL the LIVING BEINGS (means Humans, animals, birds and all CHIT’s (Chaitanya udaya Porulgal) in the World will do Anjali with their Hands towards that person as in these pictures].

ALL ANIMALS SAYS “THANK YOU FOR YOUR KINDNESS” FOR NOT KILLING ME.

 

 

 

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Overall, EVERYONE IN THIS WORLD should have ANBHU, KARUNAI, SHAANTHI towards other Living Beings, since those are BhagavAn’s Padaippu. So BhagavAta, when they start realizing this, they will slowly stop eating meat etc….. and they will start looking other animals as another JeevAthma residing in an animal body and property of same BhagavAn.

 

EACH OF US, After we do ThiruAaradhanai to Perumal, We should always keep saying “வாழ்க வய்யகம் வாழ்க வளமுடன்” which is nothing but Loka Samastha Sukhino Bhavanthu, Sarve Janaha Sukhino Bhavanthu., to bring Shaanthi to the world. This is called as “ANDASHEMA YAAGAM (அண்டஷேம யாகம்)” which everyone can do in their home in their own prayer room to any of Supreme BhagavAn Sriman NarayanAn forms (SriKrishna or SriRama etc..). When we pray WELNESS for the whole Andam to be Peaceful with Bhakthi towards BhagaVAn, we are also automatically taken care, since we are residing inside the same Andam, so we don’t need to pray separately for our wellness/health etc…

 

 

Adiyen Sri Velukkudi Krishna Dasan,

Uyya Oraey Vazhi UdayavAr ThiruvAdi,

Sarvam SriKrishna Kudumbham,

Sarvam SriKrishnarpanam Asthu

 

 

on April 7, 2019

Kongil Piratti swamy’s answer is appropriate. We need not take the trouble of trying to explain to people who keep arguing just for the sake of argument.

At the same time, it is good for us to know the fallacy in their arguments so that we don’t get carried away by their falsity; also we have the duty to convey the correct message to genuinely simple, sincere people who seek answers for such questions. For that sake, please permit me to share this information.

In today’s world, most of the grains like wheat, maize etc are not actually used for human consumption. The grains are used to feed animals which are brutally killed and eaten by humans. 

I hope the information pasted below from two links will be helpful in understanding how even if one is interested only in material aspects of life (and do not care about leading a spiritual life), a vegetarian diet is the best way to live.

  1. “The corn and the soybeans that are needed to produce one single steak would be enough to feed two people for a whole day…”

https://www.simply-live-consciously.com/english/food-resources/one-steak-2-days/  

  1. http://www.earthsave.org/environment.htm
  • “It takes 2,500 gallons of water, 12 pounds of grain, 35 pounds of topsoil and the energy equivalent of one gallon of gasoline to produce one pound of feedlot beef.
  • Because of over-consumption of fish, all 17 of the world’s major fishing areas have reached or exceeded their natural limits. One-third of the world’s fish catch is fed directly to livestock.
  • 70% of US grain production is fed to livestock.
  • 5 million acres of rainforest are felled every year in South and Central America alone to create cattle pasture.
  • Roughly 20% of all currently threatened and endangered species in the US are harmed by livestock grazing.
  • Animal agriculture is a chief contributor to water pollution. America’s farm animals produce 10 times the waste produced by the human population.”

Thank you.

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Hmm okay Swamys.
Thanks for answers.

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