1414 Swamy Parashara Bhattar Reborn

Updated on July 15, 2019 in Acharyas
32 on June 19, 2019

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe SriVarAha MahAdEsikAya Namaha

Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam

Just thinking of the guts of the person who gave Phamplet to our Swamy

Our Swamy has given left and right and destroyed the illogical view points Super

This was long awaited and no one will dare to talk about

“Na Tasya Prathima Asthi” anymore

Swamy clearly stated it’s “no equivalent”

This is an eye opener to understand new age logic who try to confuse sanAthana dhArmikAs

Enakku prachArakar nenacha pAvamA irukku nanna vAngi kattinuttAr 😂 Idhu thevaiyA?

Long live Velukkudi Swamy
Jai Hind

Dasanudasan

 
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Sri Ramanuja Munaye Namaha,

Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Guruve Namaha,

 

 

Swami’s Enpani #1414 is to enlighten the facts of BhagavAn’s Shrishti (creation), to others who are ourselves either Hindus or Christians or Muslims etc… If we talk to the core followers of other religion like Christianity, their original text is written in “Hebrew“,  like ours in sanskrit and they say there is no mentioning them as “Christians”, same as our naming as Hindus. Actually few centuries back, either myself or anyone of us (present vaidhehaas) before taking this present body in India in Brahman Kula or other kulams,, there is possibility that we (Jeevathmas) would have taken a British body (can anyone deny that, only BhagavAn knows the truth). So using British body we invaded other countries and at that time, we knowingly or unknowingly helped some pure devotees of BhagavAn Sriman NarayanA due to which BhagavAn gave an Indian Body in this birth to us. So Swami’s intention is Not to do Parihaasam (making fun) anyone of other religion since their Pamplet giving his not a crine, Swami’s was only making a conversation to help and understand the reality.

 

If we consider only Sanatana Dharma Demi God’s as BhagavAn’s Thirumeni, then Indra demi GOD disguised as her husband Gautama Maharishi and abused his wife “Ahalya” sexually. There are floating stories which say, though Ahalya know it was Infra, she did not react, but this doesn’t supercede Indra’s initial BAD intention to come as disguise.

On the other hand, Christians follow their Guru whom they call as “Messenger of GOD”, which means “Guru” in our Sanatana Dharmam.. Do they have their Guru doing such acts as Indra. There is no such acts of their Guru like that. 

So bad persons like Infra demi GOD and good person like other guru also in Perumal Thurumeni (God’s Body).

 

 

All BhaddhAthmas (Jeevathmas covered with KARMAS) are spread out in different Bodies with different religion names as Hindu, Christian, Muslim etc…..but all Jeevathmas are Shareeram to BhagavAn and fall under Sanatana Dharmam though others are not aware of the naming convention as Sanatana dharma, since they also follow Ethical conduct and follow GOD through their Guru.

 

As far as Bad behaviour or Atheism is concerned, that is also their in Sanatana Dharmam.

Core Christian devotees don’t eat meat, since their “10 amendments” says

 

  1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
  2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image.
  3. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.
  4. Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy
  5. Honor thy father and thy mother.”
  6. Thou shall not kill.
  7. “Thou shalt not commit adultery.
  8. Thou shalt not steal.
  9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor
  10.  “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s

 

All these are ethical conducts as per Sanatana Dharmam, so it is not necessary that name is important, rather following is important.

 

Let’s pick few of these:

6.”Thou Not to Kill“, but other ignorant Christians eat meat, since they don’t follow their original Hebrew text set by the one common Supreme GOD.

Same as Sanatana Dharmis, the core good followers don’t eat meat, but the ignorant Hindus eat meat during non visting days to Temples.

2.Christians also follow diety workshop, since they have their Guru Statue in their temple, like we have Acharyas diety in temples.

Also Christains say other Diety workshop not allowed, same as core Sanatana Dharmam” no bother demi GOD workshop other than Sriman NarayanA for Sharanagathas”.

5. Is same as Martha-Pitha-Guru Deivam in sananata Dharmam.

So on….

 

So the Primary thing that we should focus in This Kali Yuga is “HOW TO BE A GOOD PERSON“, A good person who has faith in GOD in any religion is better than a Bad person in any religion. Let BhagavAn take care who should reach Moksham through which religion, and let’s only follow, the PATH that what BhagavAn has chosen for us in a view point that other Jeevaathmas of any religion should also reach Moksham in SAME BIRTH and pray on our Guru’s lotus feet, whenever our Gyanam raises a bit.

 

So we should consider all Chit’s (Jeevathmas Residing in any religion) and all Achits (Prakruthi) are BhagavAn’s Thirumeni in the another thread as per Paanini Maharishi Sootram for Roodi Artham for ‘NarayanA’ word and also as per Upanushad Vaakyam as Swami says 

 

Yasya Athma Shareeram, ……….(All Chit’s are my Body)

Yasya Prithvi Shareeram…….( All Achits are my Body)”

 

So overall the huge Brahmam (உவமேயம்) can be visualized and meditated by Visually seeing the உவமானம் Archai/Diety and Acharya/Guru forms only in their own religion, which can be done by anyone who has Aasai.

 

All Sanatana Dharmis (Ethical persons) of any Religion Ki Jai

 

Adiyen Sri Velukkudi Krishna Dasan,

Uyya Oraey Vazhi UdayavAr ThiruvAdi,

Sarvam SriKrishnarpanam Asthu

 

on June 20, 2019

ஸ்ரீ வேளுக்குடி கிருஷ்ணன் ஸ்வாமி திருவடிகளே ஷரணம்

நம்.ஸ்வாமி தேசிகன் “பர மத பங்கம்” சும்மா எழுதி இருக்க மாட்டாரே ஸ்வாமி!

உடையவர் ஸ்வ மத ஸ்தாபனம் பண்ண வேண்டிய அவசியம் ஏன் ஏற்பட்டது ?

“ஸ்ரீமத் வேத மார்க்க பிரதிஷ்டாபன ஆச்சார்ய ” னு ஏன் சொல்றா?

சித்தாந்தத்திற்கு ஹானி வந்திருக்கும் அதனால் செஞ்சா

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Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha.

Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy/Guru Thiruvadigalae Sharanam.

Chowkidhar KongilPiratti Thiruvadigalae Danda Pranam.

KongilPiratti, Beautifully written.

adiyen.

on June 21, 2019

Sri Ramanuja Munaye Namaha,

 

Nandri Chinnadurai Bhagavata for understanding with Acharya Krupai and Swami’s Raul..

Sarvam Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami thiruvadil Samarpanam.

 

Swami has said one should have Karunai ullam and look everyone as Jeevathmas beyond their Bodily appearance (religions), since BhagavAn is the one who put that JeevAthma inside a particular body, let it be any religion. Only thing that we should focus is “is everyone in any religion behaving GOOD as per God’s Rule book available in their own language with Strong Belief in GOD”.

Adiyen will post later the “Sri Vaishnava Lakshanam“, how one should behave and show Karunai. It’s beautiful from Swami’s upanyasam.

 

One of the thing, Swami Koorathazhwan has said in HIS 10 amendments:
“Dhushtanai Kandaal Dhoora Vilaghu, Mudibdhaal Nanmai Sei”
துஷ்டனை கண்டால் தூர விலகு, முடிந்தால் நன்மை செய்“.
So, let’s DISCARD any Unethical Persons of any religion (Hinduism or Christianity or Islam etc…).

 

All Sanatana Dharmis (Ethical Persons) of Any Religion (Hinduism or Christianity or Islam etc..) Ki Kai,😇

Adiyen Sri Velukkudi Krishna Dasan,
Uyya Oraey Vazhi UdayavAr ThiruvAdi,
Sarvam SriKrishnarpanam Asthu

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ஸ்ரீமதே ரங்கராமானுஜ மஹாதேசிகாய நம:

“2.Christians also follow diety workshop”
Swamy they have a group called PROTESTANTS which questions everything like I do in dharma sandeha.

1. Their church don’t have statue worship
2. They don’t have father concept “who is he to stand in between me & god”?

That colleague also told me
இது மத மாற்றம் அல்ல மன மாற்றம்

I respect all Gods but not at the cost of my God!

Nambaaduvaan last sathya prathignya says “i may go to that hell which is allocated for comparing other gods with Vishnu”

Azhwar has sung வெறுப்புடு சமணர் முண்டர் வீதியில் சாகியர்கள் தலை ஆங்கே அருப்பதே கருமம் கண்டாய் அரங்க மா நகருளானே ”

வேளுக்குடி ஸ்வாமி உபன்யாசத்திக் சாதித்த ஒரு பாசுரம்
“தலை அருப்புண்டும் சாகேன்”

Meaning won’t die even if head is lost . These songs are not without a reason.

Devareer’s points are correct until we are directly impacted . Nobody here questions true followers

“அவர் அவர் விதி வழி அடை நின்றனரே”

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Sri Ramanuja Munaye Namaha,

Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swmai Guruve Namaha,

 

Dear Vikram BhagavAta,

 

Adiyen believe, BhagavAtA is reading with pre-conceived mind considering other mathams are isolated mathams and all are doing wrong.

 

Swami has said, we should draw a line looking at GUNAS (BEHAVIOUR), Good Behavior or Bad Behavior is what is prescribed by BhagavAn (Shastra’s means Do’s & Don’ts). Are all the Hindus behaving good. If so, why do we need Acharyas avatram & Swami Ramanuajr Avataram irrespective of Moksham. Swami Ramanuajar is mainly called asr “SriRangatthai Thirutthi Vaitton Vazhiye (one who corrected SriRangam and said Moksham is for everyone who has Aasai, not just for 1st varnas as per Shastras)”. A Brahman SriVaishnavite put poison on Swami’s Uccha Vritti Annam due to Jealousy (Bad behavior). So can we blindly say, Sri Vaishavaites are Good. No correct. SO, base line Behavior is important and then Devotion. Swami has said, one by wearing Symbols on their forehead doesn’t become a Sri Vaishanavite, if by MInner MIND they don’t have Karunai towards other living beings and devoation to GOD, and isolate from bad entities.

In India, majority are Hindus by Birth Certificate and spread everywhere. Consider the Jail in India, if we take census of the religion by certificate, majority of them will be Hindus, does it mean Hinduism taught them to do bad. No correct, that is because, they did not follow the Behavioral Rules as per Hinduism, and so they are in Jail, irrespective of their Birth Certificate as Hindu. Same situation for other country like usa, where, majority of them inside the Jail are Christians, doesn’t means their matham  taught them to be bad. They just did not follow their ethical behavior own texts.

 

So, the question is not about Hindu, christian or muslim it is about their base text in their own religion teaches Ethical Things, which is not being followed by everyone in each of their religion. Does BhagavAta understand this point. Same as the Swami’s Enpani. Why Swami talks about Sri VAIshanava Lakshanam etc….. it means many of us don’t follow, so we have to follow it. If we all follow initially, then why Swami had to waste time teaching us all these.

 

So, every Matham has dilution due to the bad behavior people inside that Matham’s who doesn’t follow their own Ethical text. Like Ravan is a Brahman and followed Vedas, chanted Mantras and great devotee of Shiva Devata. But he was destructive to the world. Does it means Vedas taught him to do bad. Can we make judgement that Hindusim is bad. No correct. It is not about the spiritual text, since any religion text always teaches good things for everyone., but some doesn’t follow it for the Welfare of everyone, and if that person is influential, then he can bring destruction to the world, like Ravan etc…

 

So now each Mathams are following their own text and for the welfare of others.

That’s what adiyen was saying above, the core Christians are following their Ethical Text and propagating for welfare of others. Adiyen not sure, if BhagavAtas friends are core ethical followers of their own texts or not. So, they will tell what they know. If we are following our own Hinduism spiritual texts and apply for welfare of others, then we can say, “NO Thank you for your Pamphlet, I’m already following the Ethical conduct and faith on GOD through my faith that GOD has given me birth”.

 

Acharyas “Pira Matha Kandanam” was due to false propagation of bad influential persons distorting the good faith followers. It is not aimed at the Good behavior of people, it is aimed at the bad own developed Philosophy of the people which was destructive for mankind and against GOD’s mind.

 

If one is following a good philosophy/behavior, then we have no rights to condemn others, let it be any religion.

 

In India, the “Dry Knowledge” Spiritualists (without Karunai/Sneham) was more in olden days who misused Vedas for self fish reasons, and there were Temple atrocities (bad behavior) in the name of GOD following, when GOD himself has not enacted anything like that in Texts. So, GOD closes such Temples and destroys such bad behavior Vedic people. This is same applicable for other religions, when they don’t follow their own Ethical texts.

 

So, it all about GOOD Behavior with faith in GOD, let it be any religion. So malicious behavior that is seen in any religion is condemnable, so BhagavAta need not to get into details of differences within other religion, since every religion has its own issues due to people not following their own texts. That’s why GOD sends Spiritual Masters in each area to straighten or sort of the issues to channelize the path for Spirituality and Moksham.

 

That’s why adiyen said in previous thread,

So the Primary thing that we should focus in This Kali Yuga is “HOW TO BE A GOOD PERSON“, A good person who has faith in GOD in any religion is better than a Bad person in any religion. Let BhagavAn take care who should reach Moksham through which religion, and let’s only follow, the PATH that what BhagavAn has chosen for us in a view point that other Jeevaathmas of any religion should also reach Moksham in SAME BIRTH and pray on our Guru’s lotus feet, whenever our Gyanam raises a bit.

 

Also Swami gas said that BhagavAn has a beautiful KALYANA GUNAM “NiraANKUSA SWATHANTRIYAM / நிராங்குச ஸ்வாதந்த்ரியம் (Non-questionable Independence) which BhagavAn utilizes to give Salvation/Moksham or anything to anyone irrespective of their religion, varna or state of mind. So we ignorant Bhaddhatmas cannot make Judegemt or Conclusion that it will take long time for someone and short time for someone else and who should get Moksham and question how BhagavAn gave Moksham to Shishupalan or Dhadhipandan or Naalooran or Gantakaranans brother etc…That’s why BhagavAn doesn’t even say everything to us about whom and all HE gives Moksham, since we have habit of questioning BhagavAn’s actions. It’s up to BhagavAn on how to handle/deal with his properties (we Jeevathmas) because all Jeevathmas are HIS property and NOT our property.

 

https://www.kinchit.org/dharma-sandeha/thread/is-perumal-hindu-muslim-or-christian/

 

Adiyen Sri Velukkudi Krishna Dasan,

Uyya Oraey Vazhi UdayavAr ThiruvAdi,

Sarvam SriKRishnarpanam Asthu

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Sri Ramanuja Munaye Namaha,

 

Nandri Chinnadurai Bhagavata for understanding with Acharya Krupai and Swami’s Raul..

Sarvam Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami thiruvadil Samarpanam.

 

Swami has said one should have Karunai ullam and look everyone as Jeevathmas beyond their Bodily appearance (religions), since BhagavAn is the one who put that JeevAthma inside a particular body, let it be any religion. Only thing that we should focus is “is everyone in any religion behaving GOOD as per God’s Rule book available in their own language with Strong Belief in GOD”.

Adiyen will post later the “Sri Vaishnava Lakshanam“, how one should behave and show Karunai. It’s beautiful from Swami’s upanyasam.

 

One of the thing, Swami Koorathazhwan has said in HIS 10 amendments:
“Dhushtanai Kandaal Dhoora Vilaghu, Mudibdhaal Nanmai Sei”
துஷ்டனை கண்டால் தூர விலகு, முடிந்தால் நன்மை செய்“.
So, let’s DISCARD any Unethical Persons of any religion (Hinduism or Christianity or Islam etc…).

 

All Sanatana Dharmis (Ethical Persons) of Any Religion (Hinduism or Christianity or Islam etc..) Ki Kai,😇

Adiyen Sri Velukkudi Krishna Dasan,
Uyya Oraey Vazhi UdayavAr ThiruvAdi,
Sarvam SriKrishnarpanam Asthu

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Sri Ramanuja Munaye Namaha,

Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Guruve Namaha,

 

Dear Vikram BhagavAta,

 

1)

Please Listen & Follow to Swami’s Enpani #19 “Atma Samatvam”,

https://www.kinchit.org/kinchit-en-pani/

How we should look everyone as Athma beyond Bodily appearance and that bodily difference can be any religion, kulam, varna etc……A Chrsitian is alsoa  JeevAthma, a Muslim is also a JeevAThma and son on…….

 

Now, if we consider all are Athma’s, then the next question that arises in our mind is , why there are differences like Kulam, Jaathi etc…. and such differences  of rich, poor, Kulam, Jaathi  etc…is not a big issue when compared to the BAD & Good behavior due to ones Karmas/Vaasanaas, which can influence others. A Good person contact is Satvik, and Bad person contact is dangerous.

 

2)

So, in this case, please also Listen & Follow to Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami’s Enpani #728 “Can we Debate on GOD”.

https://www.kinchit.org/kinchit-en-pani/701-750/

Where Swami says, BhagavAn takes Avataram to “Protect the GOOD and Destroy the BAD”, so it is not about Bodily Hinduism or Christianity or Islam or any religion, because a Bad person can be in any religion, so BhagavAn will protect any Good persons in any Religion. Also, Swami talks more points about BhagaVAn’s avatar as a Human, where we misunderstand & DISRESPECT BhagavAn and we think, HE is also like ordinary person and we behave foolish without identifying BhagavAn during HIS Human Avatar and we start debating about BhagavAn’s action as if BhagavAn has given responsibility to us to debate on other JeevAthmas. We know that, we already live with full of doubts, so we ask questions, then how come we can debate or judge on other JeevAthmas of any religion, when they are actually Property of BhagavAn and NOT a property of us. That’s why BHagavAn gives the Moksham giving responsibility to Karunai Acharyas and not to us, since we don’t look others as JevAthmas, we see bodily differences.

 

Also, please Listen & Follow to Enpani #20_Manas_Mithra_And_Virodhi” .

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Overall, 

So, it all about GOOD Behavior with faith in GOD, let it be any religion. So malicious behavior that is seen in any religion is condemnable, so BhagavAta need not to get into details of differences within other religions, since every religion has its own issues due to people not following their own Spiritual texts. That’s why GOD sends Spiritual Masters in each area/region/country to straighten or sort of the issues to channelize the path for Spirituality and Moksham.

 

So the Primary thing that we should focus in This Kali Yuga is “HOW TO BE A GOOD PERSON“, A good person who has faith in GOD in any religion is better than a Bad person in any religion. Let BhagavAn take care who should reach Moksham through which religion, and let’s only follow, the PATH that what BhagavAn has chosen for us in a view point that other Jeevathmas of any religion should also reach Moksham in SAME BIRTH and pray on our Guru’s lotus feet, whenever our Gyanam raises a bit.

 

Adiyen Sri Velukkudi Krishna Dasan,

Uyya Oraey VAzhi UdayavAr ThiruvAdi,

sarvam SriKrishnarpanam Asthu.

 

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Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe SriVarAha MahAdEsikAya Namaha

Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam

Athma gunam is not easy Swamy. There can be only one Sukha brummam rest like me are all baddhAthmAs.

If somebody dies I will cry whereas athma gyAnis won’t.Sukhar did not feel for Parkishit’s departure

Whereas Ramanuja sambandhis have committed suicide after udayavar’s departure that’s the difference

We can talk of detachment and so on but in practice it’s next to impossible is adiyen’s observation

Even great people will get angry if I talk nonsense while anger should have been avoided by greats !!!

Yogi is different from sathsangam .

Yogi= Alone
Sathsangam= Group

There was a competition between who is greater Yogi or BhagavathA sathsangam between Vishwamitrar and Vashishtar respectively. Adiseshan was Judge.

After this don’t know what happened APN Swamy Upanyasam got over. Yesterday I saw Srimath BhAgavatham in SVBC2 instead of continuation.

Adiyen guess Vashishtar would have won. Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy may clarify.

When devareer is approached and said “Sri Ranganathan is our God’s salve” what will you do?

There ends the matter. I will react may be Mahans won’t.

Let’s be practical .

ShareerAthma bandham is fine. Even for a day I cannot be in full nirjala ekadashi.

Who said am not treating everybody equal? I do but with my own biased mind. Am not pre-conceived but trying to learn. What’s the proof that we are correct? Why should we call other religions agyAnis? May be they are correct and we are wrong but I will defend our Sampradhayam at any cost. It’s as simple as that.

My God is great because my acharyAs have said so. There is no proof which can substantiate my claim. Am not PeriyAzhwar to prove para brahmam. Unless I get the experience of amunushya Anandam from paramAthmA as Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy told in EnPaNi 1415 I will be like this only

Stree purusha bedham theriyadha alavirkku adiyen Anasuya Devi alla. Anasuya Devi PirAtti kku mummoorthigal kattu pattanar. Adhu yogam.

Adiyen bogi, rogi and not yogi. So perumala pathi thappa pesina Enakku kovam varum. En stylela badhil solli avala switch off Panna try pannuven Swamy

Thavaru irundhaal kshamikkavum
Sri Kongil PirAtti Swamy kku dandavat pranamam
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

Dasanudasan

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Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

“So we ignorant Bhaddhatmas cannot make Judegemt or Conclusion that it will take long time for someone and short time for someone else and who should get Moksham and question how BhagavAn gave Moksham to Shishupalan or Dhadhipandan or Naalooran or Gantakaranans brother etc…”

– Adiyen politely disagree. We baddhAthmAs not saying above it was said in Bhagavath Gita. Those who worship demi gods will take their own time Swamy. Jesus or Allah cannot give moksham by the way.

Adiyen not give own interpretation Swamy.

Dasanudasan

on June 21, 2019

Sri Ramanuja Munaye Namaha,

Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Guruve Namaha,

 

Dear BhagavAta,

 

That is same as what adiyen said. No one can give Moksham except BhagavAn Sriman NarayanA, but BhagavAn gives Moksham to anyone irrespective of the place or Kula or matham once they say Sharanam based on the definition as below by MIND etc…

 

Saamanya Dharmam:

We (Jeevathmas) getting birth (human body) based on Karmas, and we are born in some family, one in India or Australia or Uganda or USA or anywhere. In that that place, their parents could be a believer of GOD, or a non-believer of GOD, and belong to any religion.

Does it mean GOD expects everyone to comes to India and then go to Moksham. We know the ANSWER is NO, because GOD expects to understand HIM either through Spiritual books available in that place, or experience the Hardships through life. So if we don’t knowvor don’t have spiritual books reading, then while going through the Hardships in life, one by instinct says “Kadavulaey yenakku inimael Piravi kudukkadhaey” in their own language, say in Engligh “Oh Almighty GOD, please don’t give me another birth, let me be with you for long service”. So this can be done by anyone in any religion.

 

Swami has said the definition of Sharanagathy in “Sharanagathy Questions & Answers upanyasam:

Question:

Sharanagathy yendraal yenna? சரணாகதி என்றால் என்ன?

Answer:

Sharanagathy yenbhadhu oru arivu, nambhikkai, maanasamaana pattrudhal. Devarirai thavira naan viruppa pattadhai adaindhu kolla Vera Upayam Illai. Devareere adiyenukku upayamaaga iruppeer -yennum praarthanai dhaan sharanagathy.

சரணாகதி என்பது ஒரு அறிவு, நம்பிக்கை மானசமான பற்றுதல் . தேவரீரை தவிர நான் விருப்ப பட்டதை அடைந்து கொள்ள வேற உபாயம் இல்லை. தேவரீரே அடியேனுக்கு உபயமாக இருப்பீர் – என்னும் பிரார்த்தனை தான் சரணாகதி.

Sharanagathy is a knowledge, belief, attaching by MIND. Oh! ALMIGHTY GOD, other than YOU, I don’t have way/route to attain what I wished. So  ALMIGHTY GOD, YOU be my Route – praying is called Sharanagathy.

 

So, this kind of praying can be done to the Almighty by anyone in any religion. And Sharanagathy can be done for any reason, not just for Moksham (no rebirth). BhagavAn approves each Sharanagathy based on our pleading.

 

Now, the next question is, then why so many Sampradhayam inside Hinduism. Its because of ones own taste and flavour BhagavAn is catering their needs. That’s it.

Then why we do sharanagathy on Acharya lotus feet is because for Bhagavat Preethyartham/Kainkaryam to spend remaining time peacefully, though BhagavAn has granted Moksham initially when one has prayed this by Mind. Also we don’t have Vishwasam (belief) about about Sharanagathy by Mind, so Acharyas bless us and guide us and keep us ibractcys BhagavAn’s lotus feet by bringing up MahaVishwasam on BhagavAn’s lotus feet.

 

Also Swami gas said that BhagavAn has a beautiful KALYANA GUNAM “NiraANKUSA SWATHANTRIYAM / நிராங்குச ஸ்வாதந்த்ரியம் (Non-questionable Independence) which BhagavAn utilizes to give Salvation/Moksham or anything to anyone irrespective of their religion, varna or state of mind. So we ignorant Bhaddhatmas cannot make Judegemt or Conclusion that it will take long time for someone and short time for someone else and who should get Moksham and question how BhagavAn gave Moksham to Shishupalan or Dhadhipandan or Naalooran or Gantakaranans brother etc…That’s why BhagavAn doesn’t even say everything to us about whom and all HE gives Moksham, since we have habit of questioning BhagavAn’s actions. It’s up to BhagavAn on how to handle/deal with his properties (we Jeevathmas) because all Jeevathmas are HIS property and NOT our property.

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There are many stories like that in puranas like

1.Jatayu Moksham, which religion is Jatayu. It is not even Human. It is a vulture. It did not know even how to do sharanagathy nor it did not know anything about Moksham. All it did is “Behaved Ethically”  to save Sita Puratti by fighting against the Bad behaviour person Ravan, so SriRama gave Moksham to Jatayu with HIS NIRANKASUA SWATHANTRIYAM.

Another story is Gantakaranan moksham.

 

2.GantaKaranan Moksham. He was a VEERA devotee of the JeevaAthma residing in the Shiva body. Why he was called as GantaKarana is because he wears a Ganta (bell) in his ears (Karanan). So when anyone says or chants name of SriKrishna, then he keeps shaking his head so that the bell rings loudly and he will not be able to hear BhagaVan’s name. His nature is man-eater. At some point, from somewhere he has heard about Moksham/Mukthi/SriVaikuntam. So, he approached the JeevaAthma in the Shiva body and asked where is Moksham and I want to go there. This was during the SriKrishna Avatar period. So, He said to GanataKaranan that I’m Helpess and Moksham is beyond my jurisdiction. He said that SriKrishna has said to come to Kailasam, so when HE comes here, you can ask HIM directly about Moksham. We know GantaKaranan is a Dveshi of SriVishnu, but on seeing SriKrishna, GantaKaranan wanted to offer something, but his habit is man-eating. At that time, he saw a rishi doing tapas (Bhakthi Yoga Margam) to go to Moksham. He killed him immediately and offered it to SriKrishna and asked Moksham. SriKrishna was shocked, but he gave the Rishi and GantaKaranan and his brother who was just standing nearby also to Moksham.

 

Where can we fit this incident (Rishi without completing Bhakti Yoga Margam got Moksham) & GantaKaranan who is a man-eater & dveshi (hated) of SriVishnu offered this food and attained Moksham, and his brother who never even asked for Miksham also got Moksham. This is because of GantaKaranan’s just last minute desire to go to Moksham.

 

Our path to Moksham is through Acharya ThiruvAdi like Sabari Moksham is NOT the only one of the way to Moksham. Swami says beautifully in Today’s Enpani #1416 how SriRama  NIRANKASUA SWATHANTRIYAM with which HE gives Moksham to anyone HE likes. There are many stories like that in puranas.

 

So don’t worry about BhagavAn’s Non questionable discretion to give Moksham to Others, since it is HIS wish Sankalpam.

 

 

Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami ThiruvAdigalukku Pala Koti DhandavAt Pranaamams for today’s enpani #1416.😇🙏

 

Adiyaargal Vaazha ArangaNagar Vaazha Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamiye Innum Oru Nootraandu Irumm.

 

Adiyen Sri Velukkudi Krishna Dasan,

Uyya Oraey VAzhi UdayavAr ThiruvAdi,

sarvam SriKrishnarpanam Asthu.

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1 on June 21, 2019

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

“So Swami’s intention is Not to do Parihaasam (making fun) anyone of other religion since their Pamplet giving his not a crine, ” – Can we Hindus give Pamphlet in front of Church and Mosque? This question was asked by a car driver to adiyen.

They have minority protection law. Do we have?

Dasanudasan

on June 21, 2019

Sri Ramanuja Munaye Namaha,

Adiyen has noticed in many threads, that Bhagavata picks only the sentences or words that is favouring to BhagavAtas thoughts and skippib the remaining sentences, which is not ideal for our Sarva gu na improvement. So please read/grasp the entire conversations where answers are already available for the newly generated questions based on biased reading.

 

Like the continuation of BhagavAtas quote in the sentence is “Swami’s was only making a conversation to help and understand the reality.”  So it is not Parihaasam.

 

Also why Bhagavata is correlating unnecessarily about Minority and Pamphlet giving. What is the relation between those.

 

Pamphlet giving is also done by any Sales person who wants to sell their products. It is not offensive or crime. If you dont need the product, just say “NO THANK YOU” to the Sales person who is at our door. It becomes offensive and crime only when the Sales person forces us to buy his product. If not, why do we need to even bother. Same way as adiyen mentioned above for the pamphlet giving by other matham Christianity. Their spiritual texts Bible says “Everyone is God’s child and they say, that their Guru Jesus due to his mercy has taken their sins and surrendered them to GOD’s lotus feet“. This same as we say in Sanatana Dharmam where Swami Ramanuja has said  “Yella Sotthum Iraivanudayadhu (we all are God’s property and all Varnas has equal rights to reach Moksham with BhagavAn’s Karunai”.

 

Whenever don’t follow Swamis words and preach to every Sanatana Dharmi about BhagavAn’s Karunai,  then we falsely get offended, since the Varattu Gyanis of Vedic tradition in olden days did not allow all Vargas to Temples and did not preach Moksham was for every Vargas. So whenl other religion people say the same thing at our doorstep with a pamplet, the people of other Vargas felt the Karunai of BhagavAn when they said “Everyone is God’s child and they say, that their Guru Jesus due to his mercy has taken their sins and surrendered them to GOD’s lotus feet”, then people moved to Christianity. If Varattu Gyanam still exists in Vedic Tradition, then it us not a surprise if people get transferred.

 

So other religion also follow Ethical things with Faith in GOD. So if we follow our own Sanatana Dharma principles they we should appreciate other religion only if they follow their Good principles as mentioned in their 10 amnendments in above thread.

 

So, it is not offensive for one to give pamphlet, since they are trying to share BhagavAn’s Karunai to all. It becomes offensive only when they force it over and over again on us.

 

So we should propagate BhagavAn’s Karunai to exusting Sanatana Dharmis as per Swami Ramanujar’s Thiru Ullam “Yella Sotthum Iraivanudayadhu (we all are God’s property and all Varnas has equal rights to reach Moksham with BhagavAn’s Karunai”, which our Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami is already doing it.

 

In this case as adiyen said above,

 If we are following our own Hinduism spiritual texts and apply for welfare of others, then we can say, “NO Thank you for your Pamphlet, I’m already following the Ethical conduct and faith on GOD through my faith that GOD has given me birth”.

 

So we don’t need to worry.

 

Adiyen Sri Velukkudi Krishna Dasan,

Uyya Oraey VAzhi UdayavAr ThiruvAdi,

sarvam SriKrishnarpanam Asthu.

 

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5 on June 21, 2019

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

“Adiyen not sure, if BhagavAtas friends are core ethical followers of their own texts or not.” – The ex- colleague CLAIMED to be core follower. According to them they were correct

Adiyen think they know their religion better than us as they have their own stories like us. No offense just see the types Swamy as per Wikipedia

Christianity – 2.42 billion
Catholic Church – 1.285 billion.
Protestantism – 920 million.
Eastern Orthodox Church – 270 million.
Oriental Orthodoxy – 80 million.
Non-trinitarian Restorationism – 35 million.
Independent Catholicism – 18 million.
Minor branches – 3 million.

So who is core according to you Swamy?

Dasanudasan

on June 22, 2019

Sri Ramanuja Munaye Namaha,

Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Guruve Namaha,

 

Dear Bhagavata,

 The census of sub divisions in Hinduism or Christianity or Islam is based on their birth certificate or later transformations which will not reflect the “TRUE followers of their own Original Ethical Texts which BOOSTS Faith in GOD.

Please read the above thread using the “certificate” examples which doesn’t tell who us Goidcand who is Bad, though one is stamped with a religion by birth.

 

Say an example of Sri Vaishnvism:

How many are Core followers of the Ethical Granthams, like do Poojai to BhagavAn, eat Prasadham  only, see all are Jeevathmas beyond bodily appearance and show Karunai to others and pray to BhagavAn to give Moksham to all irrespective of their religion, caste etc…..

So if Srivaishnavaite population is say example 30% of Hindhuism,  taken by census, does it mean all the 30% are SrivAishnavas if the above said nature It is only name sake, we are SrivAishnava, since many eat onion, garlic, coffee, thinking only I will go moksham etc.. So what us the actual CORE Sri vaishnavaites % within the total 30%, we cannot judge, since they don’t reveal themselves, and only BhagavAn knows who they are and where they are.? And also we will know only when we come in contact with them knowingly or unknowingly.

 

Same situations within other religions.

Like Christianity 10 amendments as above one of the point:

7.“Thou shalt not commit adultery.

Means No illegal sex without proper arranged marriage in front of the GOD (no diety), but they have diety of their Guru “Messenger of GOD (Hesy)  idol in their temple. So ignorant Christians says, they have no diety worship, but he core Christians do their guru jesus diety worship. They don’t do demi god worship, they pray directly the Supreme GOD as “Almight GOD“, but they don’t know who is the Supreme GOD, since their text doesn’t say, because BhagavAn has made it much easier for them to follow HIM through their GURU Jesus. Same as in Upanshadh says “BRAHMAM“, and we all Sanatana Dharmis dont know who is that Brahmam, since each demi GOD worshippers in Sanatana Dharmam claim the Brahmam us their demi-gid and lot of confusion, until Acharyas reveal it as Sriman NarayanA. So Christians are prayoig the Brahmam “Almighty GOD” through their Guru Jesus, skipping demi GOD workshop which is what their amendment 1 talks about it as above thread.

  1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

 So, they follow their texts since they are born there and not born in India.

We are born here in India, so we should follow our Satvika Spiritual texts praying the ParaBrahmam (Almighty GOD) through our Acharyas.

 

Anyway, The core followers follow the rule, but how to know. We cannot know unless you know them personally, but the common ParamAthma is inside that Christian as well, and BhagavAn becomes happy 😊 when one follows. Since we see lot of dating etc in foreign countries, we immediately come to a conclusion that all Christians are like that, which is incorrect. So it’s about per perception, excuse we cannot udentify the core followers just by looking at the % census by birth certificate or other registered means.

 

Like Christianity is recent religion, but BhagavAn gives the Shastras in Hebrew language for them to follow through (same Ethical contents), because same BhagavAn has created their body and residing inside them as Antaryami.

 

Adiyen Sri Velukkudi Krishna Dasan,

Uyya Oraey VAzhi UdayavAr ThiruvAdi,

Ubhaya Vibhoothi Nayagan Swami Ramanujar Ki Jai,

Sarvam SriKrishnarpanam Asthu.

on June 23, 2019

ஸ்ரீமதே ரங்கராமானுஜ மஹாதேசிகாய நம்:

“How many are Core followers of the Ethical Granthams, like do Poojai to BhagavAn, eat Prasadham only, see all are Jeevathmas beyond bodily appearance and show Karunai to others and pray to BhagavAn to give Moksham to all irrespective of their religion, caste etc…..”

– Million dollar question but very simple answer “I am. true to myself” .

Are we vaidheekAs? No
Technically vaidheekAs are the only ones who can effectively claim for the post of Brahmins

There ends the matter. Rest following are just for our mind peace. Thiru aaradhanam , sandhya vandhanam etc

In today’s world we can’t be true Brahmins that’s the fact. This has been discussed several times in this forum also in Swamy’s EnPaNi audios.

We can try to be better each day in getting closer to paramAthma.

It boils down to yathA shakthi. Mudinja varai.

Most of vaidheekas consider people like me a “non Brahmin”. In fact their perception is correct I am also Mleccha.

Dasanudasan

on June 23, 2019

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

Adiyen can prove it. We have ashram where panthi is seperate for vaidheekas and non-vaidheekas

Hold on, we were speaking about treating all jeevAthmAs alike 🙂

Dasanudasan

on July 12, 2019

Sri Ramanuja Munaye Namaha,

Dear Bhagavata,

The discussion us about BhagavAn treating a every JeevAthma as HIS property who says Sharanam by MIND whole heartedly to SUPREME ALMIGHTY GOD. But other Jeevathmas in aashramam ill-treating other Jeevathmas is not BhagavAn’s fault, so they gave to fix themselves or they have to deal with BhagavAn’s Kopam. So we cannot attribute humans not treating everyone alike as BhagavAn’s property is not BhagavAn’s fault. It’s ones own fault due to their own KARMAS, and Poorvacharyas says HOW one should treat other BhagavAtas in “Acharya Hrudhayam” upanyasam.

Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Thiruvadigalaey Sharanam.

on July 12, 2019

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