Dear Swamy/Periyava,
Adiyen ramanuja dasan.
I am getting hurt when our Hindus supporters gets hurt or derogatory comments by an atheist or non-believers in TN. How to face them ? Give the tips . We will share it with Younger generation. TN Media encouraging our Hurts/impact.
Manam vazikarthu.
Adiyen ramanujadasan
Ava nokamey adhudhaney
If dog barks against sun
Why should sun worry?
Dasanudasan
Adiyen understood swamy ! But Dogs are increased and their Barking is loud our Bakthas are not comfortable with this Darks Barking! “Even in a house if there is a nameboard “Dog’s around ” we stay safe to get in to their houses. Who these Dog’s are blocking my way or distracting my Bhaktas
Atheist follow நகஜ (nakaja) philosophy,
Theist follow ஜனக (janaka) philosophy.
So we don’t need to do anything special to deal with Atheist…..details as below.
“Dogs” !?!
My opinion:
Dog has one specific GREAT QUALITY, which even humans are lack on…
called,
“True & absolute Loyalty”
So, Atheist are never worth enough to compare with dog.
Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,
We don’t need to be taught on how to handle Atheist.
It’s already inbuilt in the system by SUPREME Almighty GOD.
1): NaKaJa philosophy,
2): JaNaKa philosophy.
Atheist follow NaKaJa philosophy.
Theist follow. JaNaKa philosophy
Atheist are just not non-believers, but also those who claim themselves as GOD are also atheist. The former atheist are easy to identify by their appearance, speech, behaviour, but the latter atheist are difficult to identify since their appearance, speech, behaviour is like a theist initially. These Atheist are called “Pretensive Theist”.
For the former atheist, easy step, just avoid…..
For the latter atheist, just watch what their intentions are. After some point in their Pretensive theist role, they will end up in saying “Naane Kadavul” and start doing wrong things and end up in Jail” So “NaKaJa” philosophy.
Na: Naaney,
Ka: Kadavul,
Ja: Jail ending
For “Real Theist”, they follow Dasathvam (Service) to Supreme Almighty GOD.
In SriKrishna Avatar, He was born in Jail. After HE came out of it, HE said to Arjuna in Bhagavat Gita “Naaney Kadavul”. So this is “JaNaKa” policy that BhagavAn follows.
Believers also follow same JaNaKa philosophy, but different meaning
Ja: Jail releif,
Na: Naan adimai,
Ka: Kadavulukku thondan,
Result, the Theist think about Sri Krishna Avatar, then our vilanghu (hand cuffs) a.k.a being hand cuffed in this Material world (jail) by taking numerous birt-death-rebirth will be cut off by surrendering to SriKrishna as I’m your thondan/sotthu and we reach Moksham with Acharya Krupai. Like SriKrishna’s fathers legcuff got cut automatically and jail doors opened when SriKrishna was born.
This is the gist from Velukkudi Swami’s upanyasam on SriKrishna Leelai extracted from PillaiLokacharyAr upadesam.
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Summary:
* Atheist end up in Jail forecefully due to their NaKaJa philosophy,
* Theist get relieved from jail automatically due to JaNaKa philosophy.
Is this a new religion……No…..it’s a “mnemonic code” of same philosophy….😊
Adiyen ElayaAlwar Srinivasa DhoddayacharyAr Dasan.
Atheist follow நகஜ (nakaja) philosophy,
Theist follow ஜனக (janaka) philosophy.
So we don’t need to do anything special to deal with Atheist.
@ElayaAlwar
latter atheist or Pretensive Theist
– your explanation about this latter atheist above,.
I have heard the same words from Kamal Haasan before..!
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But I think, I’ve never seen anyone with such “latter atheist or Pretensive Theist” or I may have missed….
I mean I’m not sure.
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Could you please give me any living example??
Here is top ten for the ‘latter’ list
https://www.newindianexpress.com/galleries/nation/2017/aug/26/the-ram-rahim-model-10-controversial-gurus-in-india-100754–1.html
Thank you so much for sharing 🙂🤝🏻
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Few years ago, when I first heard this… from Kamal Haasan.. I didn’t get that..!
Because i can’t find anyone here @ tamilnadu state.
Now, it’s clear.
Thanks again to you🤝🏻
Sorry to ElayaAlwar, Sorry to Vikraminside,
Sorry to interrupt you all.
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Since Mr. Govindan Narayanan said the word “Hindus”
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Are we UNITED????????????????
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I’m asking each of your opinion please –
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How to actually be together?
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As discussed in other thread, no one should focus on getting united based on Religion. Unity should happen based on the ‘Behavior’. As an example, Duryodhana and other similar characters are also Hindu in modern terms (old term Sanatana Dharmi if we say they followed Vedas), this will make one biased to a religion and lead one to wrong path.
Since Dharma is a Sanskrit word, we think Hindus are all Dharmis. Not necessary. They why do we have so many Civil and Crime cases. Its because of Behavior issues not related to religion.
Every religion has good and bad people. Dharma is Righteousness in English. Santana is Eternal as Swami has said in enpani.
So, Sanatana Dharma is Eternal Righteousness. So, meaning is important or the language is important.
If we think, Sanskrit is Vedas, then we get derailed in focusing the language rather than the content it says. This is similar situation like the Atheist focus on the language Tamil, rather than following what tare the good things that is being said through the language Tamil.
So one should take away religion brand name from mind, rather focus on Behavior.
As an example, Christianity teaches good things but their main text is written in Hebrew. The content is not in Sanskrit. Does it mean they don’t follow Vedas. Its not so.
Every religion follow the content prescribed by Supreme Almighty GOD in their own Scriptural texts.
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Regarding the question in above post.
“But I think, I’ve never seen anyone with such “latter atheist or Pretensive Theist” or I may have missed….I mean I’m not sure.
“Could you please give me any living example??”
Here is current top ten for the ‘latter’ list.
https://www.newindianexpress.com/galleries/nation/2017/aug/26/the-ram-rahim-model-10-controversial-gurus-in-india-100754–1.html
There is a comedy analogy from Vadivelu movie which match for these latter type atheist, the so called “pretensive theist” people
“….. Opening எல்லாம் நல்லாத்தான் இருக்கு
ஆனா உன்கிட்ட Finishing சரியில்லையேப்பா…..”
Look at the reach of Vadivelu “Sir”.
In YouTube search “Vadivelu Sir comedies”
It means, if one excels in his job it impacts everyone.
Reflects Bhaghawat Gita preaching.
So, if we do our work well, we will also become “Sir”.
Dasanudasan
Sir,
Sorry, but yes may be.. His hard work and talent worked then, not today
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So the “Fact” is Vadivelu failed today..
Actually “FAILED ALREADY” I think he tried 17 movies to come back to his earlier form.. 😁
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But he FAILED… is the TRUTH.
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Thanks to Vadivelu for his cheap political entry & “acting again” ☺️
So that my words are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT👍🏻
Thank god, I’m “not misunderstood”.
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So
“….. Opening எல்லாம் நல்லாத்தான் இருக்கு
ஆனா உன்கிட்ட Finishing சரியில்லையேப்பா…..”
– apt for him too..!
Fun fact is,
வடிவேலுவின் வசனம் வடிவேலுக்கும் சேர்த்து பொருந்திவிட்டதே… 😁🤝🏻..
Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
As a Sri VaishNavite, it’s difficult for adiyen to appreciate someone’s failures.
It teaches a lesson in life, nobody is always on top nobody is always at ground too.
Who knows what sufferings he is undergoing while we all enjoy his jokes!
The moment that his jokes reached BhAgavathA’s forum he is blessed.
Adiyen remember one AchAryA referring to his joke while giving anugraha bhAshanam.
Yes he is blessed by Perumal irrespective of his political stance.
One more lesson his life teaches us, we should be stable if we get more money.
The society should be blamed.
Vadivelu became Sir because of money. Why society is valuing someone based on money?
A watchman is looked down upon. A crorepathi is looked upwards.
We say “crorepathi is down to earth”!
Is he flying somewhere or what? We all are souls made of flesh & blood right?
Has anyone said “Watchman is DOWN TO EARTH” no because by societal standards a watchman is already at Earth level because of lack of money.
We are forgetting “We all are Earthlings”.
It also proves we should always keep trying even if we lose.
Dasanudasan
General reply,
literally I ENDED. by saying “it ends here” (one of my reply above)
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If I seems to be insulting vadivelu.
That’s because of கலியுகம்.
It will happen as a boomerang.
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For example let’s take 25 year old kid Imitating a 50 year old experienced person,.
It seems wrong because of the experience level, age, etc..
But
ஏளனமாக பார்க்கும் மனமுள்ள 50 Year old அந்த இடத்தில் இருந்தால்???
Then according to கலியுகம், he will get back the same effect.
@Vikraminside My reply is hidden under “show more replies”
Kindly, FYI
Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Okay Swamy. Adiyen’s reply was more on society.
To me, it appears , in olden days we valued knowledge more.
Today we value money more.
Today if we try to attempt to speak like Swamy ParAshara Bhattar,we will be called “Adhiga Prasangi”.
Flawed thoughts etc etc. There will be mamas and mamis to counter at immediate effect.
For eg:
Adiyen said “Andru iv ulagam aLandhAi adi potri”
So technically, entire world becomes “Divya Desam” Adiyen said.
Correct nu Thonithu sonnen.
Prakrutham Andavan Swamy says “PeriyavA told like that we should follow”.
Of course by mind Andavan would have appreciated adiyen.
My point is, are we encouraging new thoughts?
Right or wrong why not be open minded?
We don’t value any new thoughts even towards Perumal.
If SriVaishNavites comes in Car to Ashram they are valued more.
If a person got money, he is right! mentality.
Why are we like this?
Those days knowledge had more power
Today only money has more power.
Why?
Dasanudasan
