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Rama told – Krishna Proved – Mitra BhAvena – Vibheeshana SharanAgathi

Updated on June 6, 2021 in Avatars
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14 on June 4, 2021

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam

Sri:

Sriman Vibheeshana came to do SharanAgathi.
There was a debate in Sri Ram’s camp to allow Vibheeshana or not.

Sugriva Swamy initially said as he is from enemy’s camp, he is bad, to be disallowed.

Sri Hanuman Swamy said, Vibheeshana Swamy asked not to kill messenger to Raavana so he is good , to be allowed

From UpanyAsam Adiyen understand:
Swamy Desikan narrates as SriRam saying “Hanuman you too did not speak well, even if it is a bad person I will allow. If Raavana came also I will allow. If someone comes in the disguise of friendship I will absorb”

How true is this?

?Mitra bhAvEna samprAptam na tyajEyam kathamcana /
dOShO yadyapi tasya syAt satAmEtadagarhitam // ?
(YuddhakANda, 18-3)

I was thinking if our Perumal ever did this? This one struck me

In Sri Krishna AvathAra , the demon Pootana came in the DISGUISE of mother, she breast-fed Krishna, Krishna took it as AthmA Nivedanam.

AhA

BhAvena. Mitra BhAvena, Dosho yadyapi!!!

Hence proved

Any mistake please forgive
Dasanudasan

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vikraminside 0 on June 4, 2021

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:

If we think a little more deep, when Dhuryodhana or Shakuni extend friendship , why Krishna did not allow?

Adhuvum disguise dhAney. Mitra BhAvena.

SriRam sonnadhu than vishayathil
BhAgavathA pAndavargalukku theengu endrAl

Accept pannikka mAttAr

SriRama did not accept vAli for BhAgavathA sugrivA

SriRama allowed Ahalya mAtA “DoshO yadyapi”

SriRam tested pirAtti without any dOsham herself but in the context of Lakshmana Swamy as a BhAgavathA

Dasanudasan

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vikraminside 0 on June 4, 2021

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:
Naan Periya – Nee Periya – Perumal Vishayathil
Naan Siriya – Nee Periya – BhAgavathA Vishayathil
Dasanudasan

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vikraminside 0 on June 4, 2021

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:

Hanuman “unga ishtam” nu yaen sollala? 🤔
Lakshmana Swamy enakku nu thani AbhiprAyam kidaiyAdhu nu sonnArey

Dasanudasan

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vikraminside 1 on June 4, 2021

Answer kedachuduthu nu nenaikaren

SriRama kept acting as Human
AthmAnAm mAnusham manye Ramam DasharathAthmajam

He makes friendship with Sugriva as if he requires help from Sugriva to retrieve pirAtti

When Sugriva thinks this to be factual “due to mAyA”

See SriRama acted so well & did justice to his performance that others started to believe it is real

That moment SriRam told “To me my nails are enough to create universal destruction remembering his Narasimha avathAram”

Ivar yeppo act pandrAr, Ivar eppo PerumALA yosikarAr nu yArukku theriyum?

Just as SriRama acted Sri Hanuman also acted equally and became part of that character

Lakshmana Swamy asked in privacy as he knows SriRama is Vishnu

Hanuman could have did that but the story will not move nor be interesting

Just as Kaikeyi mAtA took tha blame for the story

Dasanudasan

vikraminside on June 4, 2021

Errata:
*Story=Incident
Here story to be read as incident
Nadantha history dhAn. MAyai endra poryLil andha vArthai vandhu vittadhu
Kshamikkavum
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

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vikraminside 0 on June 4, 2021

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:

VibheeshaNa Swamy PerumAL nu therinjundu SharanAgathi anushtichArA? 🤔

Samudra Rajan avaridam SriRamanai SharaNAgathi seyya sonnAr. AdhanAl therindhirukka vAippu illai.

Sari, RAmam Sathya parAkramam theriyAmalaiyA, SrimAn pattam petrAr Maha Rishi VAlmiki idam irundhu?

Kadavul endru therindhu dhAn , SharanAgathi seidhAr

Avarum act panni irukkirAr endru ninaikkren

Kadavul nammidam ketum pozhudhu namakku enna seivadhu endru theriyAdhu

Nilai kulaiya seidhu vidum

Narayana
Dasanudasan

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vikraminside 0 on June 4, 2021

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:
Nanna kelungO.

Sugriva Maharaja eppadi pattavar nu UpanyAsathula therinjukaren,

Mudhalla Punishment kuduthuttu, apuram visArippArAm.

Appadi pattavar, Enna sAdhikkirAr KelungO bArga

“Madhuvanam Azhindhadhu , nAn kondru viduven endru therindhum , en senai adhai seidhadhu, endrAl, pirAtti kidaithu vittAL endru poruL”

PirAtti SriRama sambandham, oruvarai ippadi nallabadi yOsikkum padi seidhu vittadhu endru eduthu koLvadhA?

Illai Sugriva MahArAjA vum Characteril inaindhu nadithAr polum!

IllaiyendrAl, logicA yosithu seyal padAthavar, indha idathil eppadi seyal pattAr?

😊

Dasanudasan

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SriVaishnava dasan 3 on June 5, 2021

adiyen do not think each and every small unpleasant discussion / argument / difference of opinion with the Bhagavathas will fetch Apacharam. If that is the case, one has to lead only isolated life.  I feel Bhagavatha Apacharam may be a shield to SriVaishnavite. adiyen can be corrected.

adiyen

 

vikraminside on June 6, 2021

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

Swamy Desikan used to say “let me leave the village if I had hurted you by any chance”

It goes on to the extant that if
“Someone becomes angry or upset because of me, I am responsible”

Each and every word matters. apachAram can be from
=> Manasu
=> Vaakku
=> KaraNam (physical)

In this online age, it may be easily forgotten.

Dasanudasan

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SriVaishnava dasan on June 6, 2021

adiyen take Apacharam to be mainly due to the intention, whether it is Manasu, Vaakku or KaraNam. Sometimes, it also depends how the receiver takes it, even if one does not intend. Some time back I went through Virodhi parigarangal and SriVaishnava Lakshanam. 

One point which can be considered in the present context is  

“Having friendship with bhAgavathas and yet finding fault in them is an obstacle.”

It depends how one interpret for Apacharam. 

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vikraminside on June 6, 2021

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
A true SriVaishnava Lakshanam is to put the blame on “one self” even if the fault is on others.

Velukkudi UpanyAsam:
“if someone scolds you take it, it is your Karma. If scolded sin decreases, if praised Virtue (PuNyam) decreases, choose what you want”

AandAL;
“naaney dhan ayiduga”
Andavan Sri Rangaramanuja Mahadesika Swamy explanation
“Naaney dhAn irukkattumey”

BharathAzhwAn:
“Kaikeyi Amma enakkAga dhAn senjA, nAn dhAn kAraNam”

KoorathAzhwAn:
“THIRUMAN KONALAA IRUKKUM NU NENACHIRUPPEN KANNU POIDUTHU”

SEE WHAT GREAT PRECIOUS SAMPRADAYAM WE HAVE

So it is his individual’s perception what can I do ?
Is today’s generation’s mistake. That perception is created because of our sampandham

As long as our sampandham exists in any way we are responsible

CharamOpAya NirNayam la Velukkudi therivikkirAr
“Nam kulathil pirappu – endha kulam? Prapanna Jana kulam”

See how that sampandham is coming?

Somehow we become RAmanuja Sambandhi

Bandhu yes we are his holiness’s bandhu. So we get Moksham.

RAmanujar emperumAnAr UTTHARAKA ACHARYAN

Before AchAryAl also Swamy gives Moksham by transporting them from leela to Nithya vibhuthi

Future generation also emperumAnAr UTTHARAKA ACHARYAN by transporting us from leela to Nithya vibhuthi

This is clearly explained by Swamy MaNavALa MAmunigal Swamy as listened.

Dasanudasan

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