Naradhar – tri loka sanjari

Updated on July 7, 2021 in General
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Namaskaram.

Naradhar is stated to be tri loka sanjari. Whether that means he travels within one andam only?. Mostly he visits parkadal only. It indicates he is not having access to vaikuntam. Also, he is the son of Brahma, who is in an andam. Whether that also mean there are as many number of Naradhar as number of andams?.

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1 on July 5, 2021

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha

Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy thiruvadigaley Sharanam

Sri:

Swamy, Naradar can send all to Moksham but Swamy himself cannot access to Srivaikuntam sounds a little distancing. May be can access KArya Vaikuntam which Velukkudi Swamy referred sometime back

Dasanudasan

on July 6, 2021

Swamy,

Karya Vaikuntam is before viraja river.

adiyen

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Swami, may i know where is it stated that he does have access to vaikuntam?

Adiyen

on July 6, 2021

Typo error , wanted to ask where is it stated that he does not access to Vaikuntam?

Adiyen

on July 6, 2021

Swamy,

It is my inference based on the understanding.

  • Naradhar is a tri loka sanjari, which does not include vaikuntam.
  • He is the son of Brahma. Brahma is in every andam. That means, there is likely hood of presence of one Naradhar or equivalent in each andam.
  • In such case, how can one expect that all Naradhars to visit Vaikuntam.

If you have any reference stating Naradhar has access to vaikuntam, the same can be shared.

adiyen

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1 on July 7, 2021

Srimate Raamnujaye Namaha,

Swamy, thanks for explaining the basis of your question.

Swamy from logical perspective,

One who travels in Triloka does not directly imply that they have restriction to spiritual world.

Though he appears as son of brahma, it does not mean in that each andam , brahma should have same number of children and same names and same type of personalities.

Even if it is the case why should we conclude that all Naradas cannot have access to Vaikunta?

With regard to references:

Narada Muni is the acharya of Vedavyasar as he instructed him to compile Srimad Bhagawatham.

https://vedabase.io/en/library/sb/1/4/33/

We assume that all our acharyas reach Vaikunta after their service here..so in that angle as well we can very well assume that Narada Muni has access to Vaikunta.

Let me search for more direct references, Krishna willing will share them.. for now please see if this reference helps.(where it is explained that he can travel across material and spiritual worlds)

https://vedabase.io/en/library/sb/1/13/60/

Another simple angle is , Vaikunta is the place where Lord resides. So In case of Pure devotees like Narada Muni, Lord is fully manifested within the heart.. so a local Vaikunta is already there.

Adiyen

Thirukachidaasanudasan

 

 

 

on July 7, 2021

Swamy,

I thought about the points indicated by you, before initiating this thread, on the three points mentioned by you initially. Though it occurred to me also as mentioned by you, somehow, I don’t want to assume it, and hence posted.
It can be seen that I have mentioned as query only.

https://vedabase.io/en/library/sb/1/13/60/

It can be seen in this verse that it mentions clearly as svarga and not vaikuntam. Let me not go by the commentary.

adiyen

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0 on July 7, 2021

Swamy has beautifully answered in EnPaNi 2160
Dasanudasan

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Srimate Raamnujaye Namaha,

Yes swami just heard Enpani 2160 where swami discusses this.

I had posted my thoughts earlier before the audio ..if it is not in inline with the audio kindly ignore it.

But swami did say in the enpani audio that if Narada Muni desires to go to Vaikuntam , he will go there. So in that aspect I can hope that my earlier thoughts are not away from what swami shared in the audio.. Not sure.

Adiyen

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Sri. Velukkudi Krishnan swamy,

Thanks for the details provided in today’s enpani audio #2160. 

adiyen

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