Krishna mentions not only virtue but also vice as his opulence?

Updated on September 22, 2020 in Avatars
12 on September 18, 2020

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam

Sri:
Adiyen, understand Krishna tries to say he is the best of best and best of both the extremes

द्यूतं छलयतामस्मि तेजस्तेजस्विनामहम् |
जयोऽस्मि व्यवसायोऽस्मि सत्त्वं सत्त्ववतामहम् || 36||

BG 10.36: I am the gambling of the cheats and the splendor of the splendid. I am the victory of the victorious, the resolve of the resolute, and the virtue of the virtuous.

One Vadakalai Swamy asked “If Vishishtadvaitam declares he is only with Good attributes and no bad attributes how come he is poison, gambling etc?”

He says I accept there is only one supreme he can be Sriman NArAyaNa also or Shiva or anyone.

I need not accept he is only Sriman NArAyaNa

He also says Narayana Sukhtham has interpretation as lotus, blue light shiva, yellow light Narayana something. I don’t understand.

Please highlight Swamy

Dasanudasan

 
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Hearty Welcome swami👏👏👏👏 adiyen knew devareer will be back🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

Welcome back Thiru TriVikraman swamy!

Delighted to feel your presence here again.

இப்போ பாரு…. கேள்விகள் கொட்டும்…. மடை திறந்தாற்போல் … சாரங்கம் உதைத்த சர மழை போல்!

on September 18, 2020

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Vera gathi? Swamy kitta dhana vandhAganum? Konja naal try pannen mudiyala but attained succes for few days distancing from Swamy. Let’s see. I don’t have a stable mind.

Haha adiyen should confess that I already saw swami in madurai muthu comedy videos comments ,indeed the world is small😆

but attained succes for few days distancing from SwamyFrom vikraminside

you may remember this as one of your biggest failure in life.

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If Vishishtadvaitam declares he is only with Good attributes and no bad attributes how come he is poison, gambling etc?From vikraminside

Vikram swamy, namaskaram. English is a funny language; you move the words around slightly and we get a completely different meaning. And when we process such twisted meanings we fail to understand the philosophy in its original form. 

Sastram / Acharyas do not say “Perumal has only good qualities”. They say “In Him everything is good”. The words ‘good versus bad’ does not have any meaning with reference to Him. Whatever is in Him it is good for us.

A very simple easy to understand example. Whether my mother hugs me or she slaps me both are good. Perumal is much more than a mother!!!

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Regarding Perumal’s opulences described in 10th chapter of Bhagavad Gita, please see the context the opulences are listed. Understanding the big picture first helps us understand the finer nuances correctly.

10.12- 10.18: Arjuna acknowledges Krishna as the Supreme most person and revealed by Himself and as declared by great sages of the past. No one can fully understand Krishna; only He know Himself; He is the origin of everything and everybody. By His great opulances He spreads all over Existence. Then Arjuna request Krishna “how can I / anyone think of you constantly? What are the different ways you can be remembered? Please tell me your endless greatness and opulances and powers so that whenever I witness these I can remember You”.

 

In response to this ernest request Krishna says “Okay, I’ll tell you how to remember Me constantly; I’ll give you a list of examples of some of my greatness. But remember, since My greatness is endless I will not list everything now; I’ll just mention some of the prominent things one is likely to encounter in routine life” (until 10.19).

From 10.20 Perumal lists His greatness and opulences. Basically, He makes a list of things we say “wow! so great” or “wow! so beautiful” or “wow! so strong” or “wow! so powerful” (so on) and declares that He is the source of such greatness. For example, of all ways of cheating everyone knows gambling is the best way of cheating. So He declares the same. Of all the ways of correcting an incorrigible person punishment is most effective. So He declares “of all things that can establish justice I am punishment”. 

Of course the list is endless. So at the end He once again says “whatever greatness you may find around you, it is just a tiny tiny tiny fragment of my original greatness (10.41). So, simply know that I pervade all over Existence and I support it all.

Thus He gives us easy way to remember Him in course of our daily life.

adiyen dasan.

 

PS: If I may add on a humourous note: “of all the questioners on dharma sandheha, I am Thiru Trivikram” 🙂

 

 

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He says I accept there is only one supreme he can be Sriman NArAyaNa also or Shiva or anyone.
I need not accept he is only Sriman NArAyaNa He also says Narayana Sukhtham has interpretation as lotus, blue light shiva, yellow light Narayana something. I don’t understandFrom vikraminside

அவர் என்ன வேண்டுமானாலும் புரிந்து கொள்ளட்டும். ஆனால் அப்புரிதலை ஒரு தகுந்த குருவின் வாயிலாக பெற்று அதன் படிக்கு வாழட்டும். அப்படி ஒரு குருவிடமிருந்து பெறாமல் இங்கும் அங்கும் நுனிப்புல் மேய்ந்து தானே ஒரு அர்தத்தை கற்பித்துக்கொண்டு, மற்றவரையும் குழப்பி, தன்னை தானே ஒரு குழுவுடன் அடையாளபடுத்திக்கொண்டு அக்குழுவுக்கும் அவபெயர் ஏற்படுத்துவது ஏற்கதக்கதல்ல.

அடியேன் தாசன்.

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0 on September 18, 2020

Welcome back vikraminside swamy. My thoughts were on you.

adiyen

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0 on September 18, 2020

Welcome back vikram swamy 💐💐💐

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1 on September 19, 2020

Srimate Ramanujaye Namaha!

Welcome back Vikram Swamy.. In your absence, Sundara Ramanuja swamy  and Jayaram swamy, partially by (Udaiyavar swamy and Seshadri swamy as well) maintained  the momentum of creating new threads, you shoudl thank them for the same.

Adiyen

 

 

on September 19, 2020

enpanifan swamy,

Thank you for the complements.

adiyen

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0 on September 22, 2020

Regarding Narayana Suktam

It’s the Sanskrit which is so flexible and diverse that it can create anything of sentences.

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