Beggars have full Lakshmi Katakaham

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4 on April 26, 2024

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam

Sri:

Beggars have full Mahalakshmi kataksham because first thing Vishnu does is to remove money to make devotee a true devotee

Dasanudasan

 
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One of the 18 differences between kalais is Lakshmi Kataksham. Of Vadakalai believe that Lakshmi is a equivalent god to Maharashtra Vishnu, then she can bestow riches on par with Vishnu.
However, we Tenkalai differ and say Lakshmi is also a soul and not equal to Vishnu. Just like Vishnungets work done by Indra, Siva etc., Lakshmi too helps Vishnu and not equal to Vishnu.
Now beggars are of several type. I am a Mummukshu and I have been told to beg not for riches but for a property in the Vaikuntam. Beggars on street beg for riches in this world and get it from Lakshmi whereas beggars like me beg for a place in Vaikuntam and through Lakshmi’s Purushaakaram, Lord Narayana bestows it to all Ramanuja sampradayees

on April 30, 2024

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

Not sure why Vadakalai Thenkalai difference is coming here?

I am Vadakalai whether devareer like it or not.

You Tenkalai don’t believe “However, we Tenkalai differ and say Lakshmi is also a soul and not equal to Vishnu. ”

Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy himself said when adiyen asked directly in person in front of crowd

“Sri Lakshmi is special JeevAthmA”.

And not just a JeevAthmA.

By the way what Tenkalai thinks will not change who Lakshmi is.

People like Adiyen beg for richness in SriVaikuntam as well as laukikam.

But beauty is, those who say “I will not beg laukikam richness” will have car , property etc

Dasanudasan

Dasan said soul and not what type of soul. Swamy has said even Vishnu Himself is a soul but of a different character. A nithyathma is below Paramatma and a Jeevathma is below nithyathma. So as long as we consider Lakshmi as not paramathma, it is fine. She can be a nithyathma which is above Jeevathma. We worship many nithyathmas like Vishwaksena, along with Lakshmi.
I am not bringing difference in Kalai but just pointing out that trying to question a Tenkalai based on vadakalai opinion is fruitless.

1 week ago

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

Adiyen beg to differ not because I am Vadakalai but because of viewpoint and devareer being an advocate.

See Swamy,
Sri Mahalakshmi according to Tenkalai let her be JeevAthmA. Point here is,

Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy has told she is the one who bridges “JeevAthmA ~ ParamAthmA”

Via

A – Vishnu
U – Mahalakshmi
M – JeevAthmA

So AUM = OM

Now point here is, NithyAthmAs don’t just worship Narayana but they worship Sriman Narayana.

So Lakshmi is above NithyAthma. Hence proved!

Also according to Vedam, ParamAthmA himself is denoted as husband of Lakshmi. Not by his nature alone.

Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy also told Sri Mahalakshmi was there even before she was born in ThiruPArkadal milky ocean.

“Ahalihillen”

SriPathi

This is by logic.

Also shlokAs says “Moksha PradAyinee”.

Whether she has given Moksham to anyone directly to JeevAthmA is what my Tenkalai colleague had as the point of debate.

As far as Adiyen know “She recommends”. Adiyen really don’t care if she gives alone or as a couple.

PerumAlaiyum thAyAraiyum pirikka nAm yAr?

Not if Lakshmi is JeevAthmA or ParamAthmA. If entire creation happens for her how can she be equated to NithyAthmA or any JeevAthma Goshti?

To which other NithyAthmA Narayana creates please tell me?

So even in Tenkalai point of of view Sri Mahalakshmi is above NithyAthma/MukthAthmA & JeevAthmA

So she is special. What level you give to Sri Mahalakshmi is not a concern for me because that’s your understanding.

Indivisible duality or indivisible polymorphism is what our philosophy is all about.

Even Dwaitham cannot disagree “EkamEeva Adwitheeyam”

Simply saying:
I love my mother more than my father but I love both. Daughters may love father mother than mother. One’s own wish. It does not change parent’s stature.

Entire guru parampara starts from

“Lakshmi NAtha SamArambhAm”
Even in reverse
“Lakshmi Vallabha ParyanthAm ”

Epdi pathAlam Lakshmi illama irukka mudiyAdhu Voi 😁

As one Swamy in this forum used to say “First among equals”

Adiyen
Dasanudasan

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