“Anaadhi” term- unable to pick up or to visualize

Namaskaram Swamy,
Adiyen refers to your numerous discourses and EnPani replies regarding the term “aNAadhi” or existence without references to the begining…or origin..

Adiyen is still not able to digest or unable to visualize such a state that how Baghavan exists. Or originated.. what was it before…etc., though this, at this juncture, is immaterial to us (bhaghavathas) as our focus is on how to attain aAcharya thiruvadi or Bhaghavan thiruvadi.

Whenever, trying to visualize or imagine in my mind about this, adiyean subjected to a strange feeling and could not withstand that experience…and forced coming out of that state immediately..

I had raised earlier in this forum about this. Still awaiting a convincible reply. Any specific or detailed explanation or references available from our poorvaacharyaas or from vedantas?
Shamikkanum,
Dhanyosmi Swamy.
Adiyen Ramanujadhasan.

Srimate Ramanujaye Namaha!

Namaskaaram, swami. Please find one reference which may be related to your query.

Bhagavat Gita  chapter 8 verse 20 and 21.

“Yet there is another nature, which is eternal and is transcendental to this manifested and unmanifested matter. It is supreme and is never annihilated. When all in this world is annihilated, that part remains as it is.

That supreme abode is called unmanifested and infallible, and it is the supreme destination. When one goes there, he never comes back. That is My supreme abode.”

Adiyen

Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,

Namaskaram ‘Srivasan’ BhagavAta,

With Acharya ThiruvAdi Bhalam and Velukkudi Sri Krishnan Swami’s Aasirvadham, adiyen will share some details regarding devareer’s question:

“……….Adiyen refers to your numerous discourses and EnPani replies regarding the term “aNAadhi” or existence without knowing the begining…or origin……………Adiyen still unable to find a convincing reply…………”

We have heard the word “Anaadhi அனாதி” from Sri Velukkudi Swami and all PoorvAcharyas and BhagvAn SriKrishna has said in the past.

As we know,

“Aadhi / आदि / ஆதி ” means Beginning or Origin. So there is first start date, but when Sanskrit word “An or Na” is added, it gives opposite meaning.

An + Aadhi = Anaadhi,

अन + आदि = अनादि,

அன்  + ஆதி = அனாதி.

Anaadhi / अनादि / அனாதி means “Without a Beginning or without an Origin.

However it can also be considered in a different view point as DON”T KNOW TO SPELL THE ORIGIN

Now, how to understand this “Dont know to spell the origin” termed as word Anaadhi / अनादि / அனாதி using our “Maternal” mind for simplicity as follows.

Say, the number 1 followed by 3 zeros, we say as one thousand easily, 1000

1 followed by 6 zeros, we say 1 million, 1,000,000 (10⁶),

1 followed by 9 zeros, we say 1 billion, 1,000,000,000 (10⁹),

1 followed by 12 zeros, we say 1 trillion, 1,000,000,000,000 (10¹²),

etc…….

Now, how about,

2 times million : a million million (1,000,000,000,000 or 10¹²), 1 followed by 2×6 zeros, same as trillion

3 times a million: a million million million (1,000,000,000,000,000,000 or 10¹⁸), 1 followed by 3×6 zeros, same as 2 times a billion.

Yes, we can say by mouth all these numbers,

Now, how about,

1000 (10³) times a million : a million million million million million million million million etc thousand times (10⁶⁰⁰⁰)……………..1 followed by 1000*6 zeros.

1,000,000 (10⁶ / 1 million) times a million : a million million million million million million million million etc million times (10^6,000,000)……………..1 followed by 1,000,000*6 zeros.

Now, how about,

(10^6,000,000 ) times a million : Ok, to some extent, I can spell this.

No lets try further

(10^{6,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000} ) times a million : Really?. Do we even need to spell this. Sorry, I cannot, I’m tired.

So, there is a “Saturation Point” for us, beyond which we are not capable of Spelling it further. So we call it as “INFINITY”, that doesn’t mean there is NO actual zeros to it. It is because I’m NOT capable of spelling it further. So, any further zero’s added to the INFINITY is also called as INFINITY, since we have already crossed beyond our Initial Saturation Point of Spelling it. we don’t want to take any more risk of damaging our brain & mouth, so lets name it Simply as “INFINITY”, is what we finally conclude.

Same as our KARMAS are ININITY times INIFINTY times INFINTY times continuously…….., Hence, we don’t know the Karmas Origin, though BhagavAn SriKrishna may know. So, let’s call it as “Anaadhi (DON”T KNOW TO SPELL THE ORIGIN)”.

Hence, Anaadhi means “Don’t know to spell the Origin” since  we cannot spell it. It doesn’t mean there was no origin.

Is it really possible to have  karma’s without start point by itself. It cannot be true, since karma’s are given by BhagavAn to us when we do actions. So when we start digging more questions, inorder to keep us calm, Vidhvaans say, instead of investigating the Karmas Origin, the focus to be HOW to WIPE it OFF in the same Birth that we took, which is attainable with Swami Ramanujar’s Grace in this Janma which Devareer already achieved by saying “Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha“. So, no worries.

Adiyen (ElayaAlwar) Srinivasa (DhoddayacharyAr) Dasan 

adiyen’s first thread in this forum is 

https://www.kinchit.org/dharma-sandeha/thread/para-brahmam/

wherein I have asked five questions related to para brahmam, anadhi, leela vibhudhi etc., to which swamy has given an enpani audio @1786  titled “உள்ளதை இல்லை என்று நிரூபிக்க முடியுமா ?”.  

I feel if one say that origin exists then there will be several queries related to that and will be in a sort of whirlpool, which will remain unsolved. If one calls it anadhi, then one can put an end to several questions.

I still wonder why should Para Brahmam, atmas, karmas exist at all ?. If they does not exist, then cycle of births will not take place.

Whenever, trying to visualize or imagine in my mind about this, adiyean subjected to a strange feeling and could not withstand that experience…and forced coming out of that state immediately..From Srinivasan

If you feel it can be shared, would you explain the experience?.