Why vaali is seen as Animal for killing reason! Not for his living

Updated on September 15, 2023 in General
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Dear Swamy/Periyava,

Adiyen ramanuja dasan

Swamy when Lord rama killed Vaali no need to raise any questions! But certain upanaysa swamigal mentioning Vaali is an Animal so Lord King Rama can kill him without any reasoning. But same when Vaali treated as animal for killing but why not for his animal way of living by fighting with own brotherhood. If I am not wrong Animals doesn’t maintain of Mom/Dad/Son/daughter relationship after some years or when they grown up. So vaali/sugureeva is an animal fight n lose?.

Kshamikavum

Adiyen ramanuja dasan

 
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Vali & Sugriva are anthropomorphic, and not like the animals that we see in our present life.

on September 13, 2023

There is a nasty story in purana about their birth. Riksharaja an anthropomorphic money with human characteristics was born from Brahma’s thilak for the purpose of demolishing asuras in the forest. He got transformed into a beautiful woman when he entered a bewitched pond. As we discussed on other threads how the demi-gods have Rajas/Tamas gunas, Indra and Surya demi-god lust towards the lady (previous Riksharaja), sired Vali who is progeny of Indra, and sired Sugriva who is Progeny of Surya. Even  there are some court cases where brother married his brothers wife. So we call as an animal act. In-order to behave like animal, does one need to be an animal. No, Its the uncultured behavior’s. So Vali or Sugriva know all their relations, Vali just exhibited his uncultured behavior marrying Sugriva wife after driving him away.

This question of vaali and sugriva being monkey arises because there are no segment of people praying them. 

They are anthropomorphic, human bodies/mentalities with money features but very powerful than any humans or baboons in Kali Yuga, due to their father being Indra & Surya and mother transformed lady from  Riksharaja anthropomorphic monkey.

on September 13, 2023

Thankyou swami for your views. My understanding is by knowing their extraordinary power vali did this fight and grabbing his brother assets and family as his greedy wishes. But one question is why Rama quoted killing vaali is valid being he is an Animal so hide and killing is valid.

on September 13, 2023

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

Adhu romba simple Swamy.

You don’t ask an animal before hunting.

Dasanudasan

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Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thriruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri Krishna Premi Swamy Thriruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:

Swamy,

Lord Rama answered every bit of Vali’s question.

The beauty of that killing is
“Animals don’t see right & wrong” as humans do but Vali did.

Therefore that “paguthu arivu” caught him in-between. Vali proved he is beyond animal and that argument failed.

If beyond animal why killing?.
Then laws of humans apply and Vali did a crime requiring punishment according to Sri Ram.

This one incident proves lord Sri Ram is “Nirankusha Swathanthran” unquestionable yet he gave his answers for us a spec in this universe to understand.

My two cents, “Just because a soul is in animal’s body it need not really be an animal”

Example: Lord Hanuman

Dasanudasan

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0 on September 15, 2023

Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,

Yes, that is correct as said “………….Lord Rama answered every bit of Vali’s question……………”.

Here is Swami’s enpani #42 “Vaali Vadha Samadhaanam” about Vaali’s different questions to SriRama directly during death bed, the very same the questions that people ask in the Pattimandram “வாலியை கொன்றது சரியா தவறா?”, SriRama answers all those pattimandram questions and concludes “வாலியை கொன்றது சரியே”.

Kinchit En PaNi – App Satsang

Adiyen ElayaAlwar Srinivasa DhoddayacharyAr Dasan.

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