Srimatae Ramanujaya Namaha,
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Guruve Namaha,
Asmdh Sarva Gurubyo Namaha,
Beautiful Answer and very true practical question that most of the Bhakta’s face.
Adiyen would like to elaborate the conversation little more Correlating what adiyen has heard in upanyasams and from other Prapannas and adiyen’s own experience.
As Swami says in many upanyasams, there are only two types of people (Jaathi) in this world. One is a “Prapanna Jaathi” & another is a “Varungaala (Future) Prapanna Jaathi”, since we were also a “Future Prapannan” in the past and with “Yetherchaya Sukrutham” (blessing received from BhagavAn by doing a good thing unknowingly, though we did not intent to do a good thing,) as one of the reason, we became a “Prapannan” in the present. The duties as per Shastras should be followed by both Jaathis wherever possible based on which Varnas (Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya and non-Brahmin) are relevant to them by birth.
A Prapannan need to be careful with the Saha Bhojana Yogyar (to whom we sit and eat, since if they have higher level Rajas/Tamas gunas, it will affect our Sathvik gunas as well and make the Prapannas Sathva guna deteriorate. But, a ‘Prapannan’ need to help a ‘Future Prapannan’ to Transform to a ‘Prapannan’ as well, as some ‘Prapannan’ helped us in the past to make us transform to a ‘Prapannan’.
“Aahaara Suddhi” as Swami has said in EnPani # 13 to be followed by both Prapannan and a Future Prapannan for their own benefit to get BhagavAt krupai.
Please disregard, if below doesn’t make any sense &/or overwhelming, since it is adiyen’s own experience and some answers received from other Prapannas.
Explanation to a “Future Prapannan, FP” by a “Prapannan, P” only if he is interested in knowing with an open mind and tries to make Conversation with us, if not, just don’t pay attention and we should keep continuing the Acharam and Anushtanam wherever possible with Yatha Shakthi. Swami Ramanujar will Save us from all obstacles:
Situation 1) if ‘FP’ is in Aggressive mode:
FP: Please come a join team lunch and have food.
P:Politely & firmly say, Thank you for the offer. I couldn’t join as I brought my own lunch.
FP: Are you trying to avoid us. Do you think, you are a great person?
P:Politely & firmly say, I’m allergic to some food like nuts or spices etc… Also, if the food is old (more than 4 hrs), then I cannot eat, since it will loses its taste or flavor. I get rashes on my body or stomach ache, so I cannot trust on outside cooked food with masalas/spices etc, since I don’t know how it is cooked and the ingredients used. I will be one who will be affected, so I bring my own lunch. Please pardon me.
(A “FP” cannot avoid this answer, since there are cases where his own kid or himself has allergy towards some food etc.. Moreover, if food is cooked more than 4hrs, it loses its PraanAn, so the food is under decay state as SriKrishna says…so an FP will accept this answer. If not, don’t worry about his thinking or response at all, just ignore).
FP: Ok, whatever. For next time, can you tell us what type of food allergies you have, so that we can plan ordering food which will also suit for you?
P:(This is a kindful situation, but dharma sankatam for us. In this situation, if there is no way, we can avoid it, then we can say,)
I eat Curd rice or fresh salads or some sweet or milk or some fruits when I eat outside. Mostly, I eat cooked food, only if it is prepared from home due to allergy restrictions. [Try to avoid as much as possible eating outside food, but in unavoidable situations, we can eat these food on outside. Swami has said that these food has no Dhosham (fault)].
Situation 2) if ‘FP’ is in Assertive mode:
FP: Anyway, if you brought your own lunch, why don’t you join with us and eat. We can talk something else other than work while we are eating.
P:Politely & firmly say Mostly, I avoid talking while eating at any time/anywhere.
FP: What? What do you mean? Don’t you talk at home with your family members or talk in your cell phone while you eat. Every people do this.
P: No. I don’t do such thing while eating. (In mind,A Prapannan realizes that he is true to what he says, either at work or at any other place. As a Parpannan, we all know that we are in-taking Perumal Prasadam, so we cannot disrespect Prasadham & Perumal by doing other activities while in-taking Prasadham, since Perumal himself gives Seva to us in our stomach in the form of “Jaatara Agni/ Vysvanar Agni, which is the amilam (acid) generated which makes us feel hungry. So, we are offering food to PerumAl, then giving that food back to PerumAl in our stomach who is residing as Jaatara Agni by thinking about Perumal. So, a Prapannan never consumes anything, it’s all about PerumAl).
FP: I don’t understand what you are saying. Can you explain why you don’t talk while eating?
P: When I talk, I’m not able to chew my food & moreover, my etchil (saliva) gets spilled out while talking, which is not physically visible. This could fall on other people’s food. So, I don’t want to spoil others food by my saliva. This is same case as yours. When everyone talks, we are eating everyone’s saliva along with the food. (Now, the FP starts thinking and will feel bad or gets upset, since he is been eating food in this manner for a long time. We can see the changes in himself immediately and improves his food habits, as no one likes others saliva in their food).
Situation 3) if ‘FP is in Submissive Mode:
FP: I see. I understand. Ok, then let’s sit together and not talk while eating.
P:Politely & firmly say, No I would like to eat alone whenever possible. It hardly takes 20 minutes only.
FP: Are you avoiding me. How about a working lunch situation, how will you eat alone?
P: I understand, all situation is not avoidable, but you need to understand why I eat alone.
FP: Ok, why do you eat alone?
P: (Politely & firmly say, provide ‘FP’ a Materisstic explanation which is very true as well).
I eat alone so I could focus only on the food that I eat without any diversions, so I could properly digest my food.
1) As you know, 20% of digestion happens inside mouth only when food mixes with saliva. When we talk, then air forms as a barrier between saliva & food. This air in contact with saliva causes contamination of the saliva and further digestion of food is spoiled in mouth itself. So chewing the food without opening the mouth 32 times is the key for good digestion. Thats why GOD has given us 32 teeths. So, where is the question of talking while eating? Saliva is good as long as it stays inside the mouth, but once it is outside and mix with air, then it causes contamination of the food, so i cannot talk while eating. Does it make sense. (In mind, a Prapannan realizes how he intakes the food without his hand touching the saliva like how Acharyas eat Prasadham, because once hand touches the saliva, then the saliva sticks to the hand & in-turn the saliva gets contact with air. Then, when we take the next round of food, this causes contamination of the Prasadham).
2) Then, 60% of digestion happens in stomach with the help of the acid generated in the stomach.
3) Then, remaining 20% of the digestion happens in the small intensive where all the food is converted to glucose molecules.
Overall, we humans are responsible for our indigestion by spoiling the 80% of digestion that happens in the mouth & stomach. We are surviving with the 20% of the digestion that happens in the small intestine, since we couldn’t interfere.
[Our body secretes the necessary hormones for the tasks that we are up to. Like if we are watching TV, then the brain receives the signal & secretes the necessary hormones for the action of the eyes. When we eat food by focusing & thinking only about the food, then the brain takes 20 minutes to release the necessary digestive hormones to the stomach, so that the food could get digested. That’s the time, we get the first burp. This burp is the indication from the body that, your stomach is full (50% of stomach occupied with food). We can feel this easily. We can eat to second burp maximum if needed, but not recommended. First burp is the limit because we need food, water & air circulation is stomach as well, like if we divide stomach into 4 compartments, then we should eat only 2/4th (50%) of food, the remaining 1/4th (25%) should be for air circulation & the remaining 1/4th (25%) is for water which should be taken only 30 minutes after food. This is because, the acid in the stomach is still doing its job of digestion, so drinking water while eating or within 30 minutes after eating will spoil digestion (Prapanna in mind realizes about Paanaka Narasimha PerumAl, any food we give to give HIM, once HE consumes 50% of it, there is a burp sound from PerumAl). So, when we are watching TV or talking or even thinking something else other than the food while eating, then our brain realizes only the action that we are doing & releases the necessary hormones accordingly. So, all the food that we ate doesn’t get digested because of no digestive hormones released by brain because we were watching TV and was engaging the brain. So automatically people over eat when they watch TV, since body did not trigger us to stop eating by providing burp. Finally there over fill the remaining 2 compartments of stomach which was supposed to be for air & water. Finally, they end up in trouble. All in-digested food causes bad glucose. So when there is a bad glucose generated, the pancreas in the body which is the Quality department doesn’t provide Insulin to that particular Glucose. This results in the bad glucose stored in the body cells, which is the start point of all the diseases sugar complaint etc. Then, we artificially inject Insulin instead of fixing our problem, since we are not aware that body itself will provide Insulin to the good glucose generated by good digestion which is achieved by mindful eating (focusing only on the food while eating). When we start repeating the mistakes, then at point the accumulation of bad glucose stored is so huge that we start getting all body problems over a period of time, since bad glucose cannot fix anything.]
FP: Are you kidding. I don’t have any problem now.
P: If you have enormous enough credit points (account balance) now, then spending a huge amount out of it will not affect you immediatley, but will affect you, once you reach your account bottom balance if you keep spending without acquiring more credit points.
FP: Where did you know about this type of eating method?
P: It is popularly called as “Mindful Eating”. It appears like, you are interested in keeping your body happy, but you don’t even follow the Mindful Eating, so how come you are telling the food habits that you follow are great. Don’t you think, you should refine your food habits for your own betterment (A “FP” if considers positively, then he will be speechless, because his ideology of food habits is totally now re-shaped).
[The above scientific facts that a Prapannan explains to a Future Prapannan is true for both of them, but the difference is that a Prapannan doesn’t focus on these scientific facts, instead he confidently follows what PoorvAcharya’s have followed as Aahaara Suddhi/Niyamanam (Seyyathana Seyyom). Scientific facts are nothing but “how much BhagavAn wants to reveal to us about his creation by using materialistic examples, if a Future Prapannan don’t have faith in SANATANA DHARMAM at present. It is a step-by-step process].
FP: Ok, I understand your point of “Mindful Eating” like food allergy (so bring home made food), don’t talk while eating & don’t focus on anything other than food while eating. Will this help me to keep my body fit all the time?
P: This will help you to keep your body fit to some extent only, since you are avoiding the unnecessary practices, but cannot guarantee for a long period. It will depend up on what is in your Prarabtha karma. Due to your karma, your body may or may not get affected.
FP: What is this new stuff karma?
P: Karma is accumulated based on the actions that the Athma (Ourselves) does using this body.
FP: You are confusing me now with body (Shareeram), Athman & Karma. How do I understand what you are talking about? What is an Athma.
P: AThma is Ourselves. We are not this body. We have seen, many people die, and their body lies here, so something was inside that body for long time due to which the body was able to do actions. That something was the Athma (Ourselves).
FP: Where did you know all tehse things.
P: Ok, There are Spiritual Discourses CD’s available under topic “Yen Piranthaen”, “Naan Yaar” by Sri Velukkudi Krishna Swami which is available at Kinchitkaram Trust. I was benefitted from these and my life changed due to Swami’s blessings.
PLease spend some time dedicatedly and listen for your own benefit and share with others, so they can be benefitted. You can know about yourself and then start applying in practice and further Prapatti (Surrender to BhagavAN Sriman NarayanAn lotus feet) and move on.
FP: Ok. i will try to get the spiritual discourse and listen.
PLease try any of these types wherever applicable.
Initially, we talked about the Food and Body, then slowly enlighted ‘FP’ about the next level Athma. Then ‘FP’ will automatically go in search of SPiritual Discourses and Swami’s Upanyasams explains in detail for AThma Ujjivanam.
The opponent will be able to receive it properly, only if we are following it correctly as best as possible with Acharya grace.. So, lets try whereever possible.
Again, Please disregard, if below doesn’t make any sense &/or overwhelming, since it is adiyen’s own experience and some answers received from other Prapannas and some correlating to Upanyasams.
Adiyenai Shamikka Prarthikkiraen for errors.
Adiyen Sri Velukkudi Krishna Dasan,
Uyya Oraey Vazhi UdayavAr ThiruvAdi,