What can we do when we forget our Ashrama dharmam?

Updated on October 19, 2020 in General
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Adiyen srinivasa daasan.
Mangalasasanam to swami and all sadus of this goshti.

Swami! Our shastram recommends us to not give up our varna ashrama dharmam. That is also best to all living beings. All of vaidika siddanta accept this. If a person who don’t know his Asrama which he belongs to ie his ancestors were following and he is now willing to follow a vaidika margam, which ashrama dharmam he should follow? How can one find that “I belong to this ashrama?”

Aparadangalai Kshamikka prattikkiren.


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Srimate Ramanujaye Namaha!

Swami i post below a relevant verse from Bhagavat Geeta text 4.13.
cātur-varṇyaṁ mayā sṛṣṭaṁ
tasya kartāram api māṁ
viddhy akartāram avyayam


cātuḥvarṇyam — the four divisions of human society; mayā — by Me; sṛṣṭam — created; guṇa — of quality; karma — and work; vibhāgaśaḥ — in terms of division; tasya — of that; kartāram — the father; api — although; mām — Me; viddhi — you may know; akartāram — as the nondoer; avyayam — unchangeable.


According to the three modes of material nature and the work associated with them, the four divisions of human society are created by Me. And although I am the creator of this system, you should know that I am yet the nondoer, being unchangeable.

Here Krishna explains that the catur varna division is based on one’s guna  and work. Brahmana is one who is predominantly in sattva guna, Kshatriya is mixture of Sattva and Rajas. Vaishaya- rajas and tamas and Sudra predominantly in tamas.

So depending on this nature they will choose a certain karma or occupation. 

How doe some get the qualities of saatva , rajas and tamas?

1.By genes by birth as the sattva, rajas and tamas form parents and ancestors are transmitted to the child.

2.The next factor is what type of environment the child grows.

3. Third factor is how much effort does the individual take on his own to move to higher gunas.

4. Finally if one has association of saintly persons, then by following their instructions, one can raise above the modes of nature.

So theoretically speaking one cannot assign a varna to a person purely on birth based on factor 1 and 2 alone. There is scope for change via factor 3 and 4. But rule 3 and 4 applies to very very small minority so for all general cases rule 1 and 2 is being used for varna classification.

So coming to the question on how to identify one’s varna is by identifying one’s predominant mode of nature and what proportion one is in sattva, rajas and tamas and then make a choice. Chapter 14 of Bhagavat geeta gives examples which can help us evaluate. But usually it is best done by a superior who knows us well.





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Namaskaram Swami,

I am just adding to what enpanifan swami has said.

Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami has advised to follow the common dharma if varna is not known.

Please refer to this video:


The question asked by the last person is similar to your question.

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How can one find that “I belong to this ashrama?”

It’s simple.

Whichever Ashrama you are very near by practice from last few years is your Ashrama. The keyword is – by practice.

Ramanuja Dasan

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