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Na cha punar avarthathey is there a possibility of return to leela vibhuti?

Updated on November 10, 2021 in Karma
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5 on February 1, 2020

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam

Swamy,

As creation itself Perumal’s play is there a possibility of PerumaL putting the jeevAthma back into creation?

Let’s say if i don’t do Kainkaryam properly or if he gets dissatisfied with me

Sri vaikunta virakthaaya Swamy pushkarini thatey

Though jayan and vijayan had been sent from kArya vaikuntam still they have been pushed from vaikuntam (yoddhum na shakya ayodhya)

They just did their job of gate keeping

Dasanudasan

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ram2000 1 on February 1, 2020

No Perumal doesn’t send us back at all. Once we get moksham we are with full gnyanam and some kalyana gunas. So there is no possibility of us doing kainkaryam improperly. Kaarya Vaikuntam is inside Leela Vibuthi not Nitya Vibuthi. So it’s not to be considered as such as Vaikuntam. Yodhum Na Shakyate simply means that which cannot be conquered. Not anything related to return.
Adiyen

vikraminside on February 2, 2020

Swamy,
“Yoddhum na shakyathey” directly does not mean return okay.

When you say Srivaikuntam has another name as “ayodhya” it is indestructible a permanent place that includes karya vaikuntam right?

What’s the point in calling any place as Srivaikuntam when it is also part of leela vibhuthi?

How come devareer say not anything to do with return? A permanent place but differential access cannot be called as ayodhya or Srivaikuntam

It is just another place not Srivaikuntam

If it’s Srivaikuntam it means ayodhya and na cha punar avarthathey.

This is adding to confusion. Swargam also a place of happiness.

Swargam literally means “su varga:” always happiness. My friend told Srivaikuntam is actual Swarga: because its permanent place of happiness

In normal swargam we return. We don’t have ever lasting happiness. Technically it cannot be called as swargam.

Dasanudasan

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ram2000 2 on February 2, 2020

Swamy,

The answer is

BhAgavatha apachAram to the rishis.

This BhAgavatha apachAram is made as a vyAja for perumAL to
start His avatAra leelAs.

Kindly read here for a detailed explanation. Hope you will get convinced

Jaya and Vijaya episode

 

Adiyen

vikraminside on November 10, 2021

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

Swamy,

Adiyen heard Mukkur Lakshmi NrusimhAchAriyAr upanyAsam and had the same understanding. The vyAjam is okay. Exceptions cannot be examples. Yet, something happened beyond the veda vAkya. As Perrumal always overpowers veda with Aghatitha Ghatana sAmarthyam as Swamy Desikan says.

There is no convincing for adiyen. Just wanted to strengthen the mahavishAsam.

As far as adiyen know Jaya Vijaya did their duties.

In AnanthaRama Swamy Dhikshitar upanyAsam, Swamy opines , dwara palakas were concerned the akshara Brahma nishta rishis were concerned that they were undressed.

Whatever it is, as we already underwent numerous poorva janmas, we can request Perumal not to have such plans on us 🙂

Dasanudasan

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vikraminside on November 10, 2021

*dwara palakas were concerned the akshara Brahma nishta rishis were were undressed.

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