If mantras does work how certain rishis give bane the mantras won’t work?

Updated on September 1, 2019 in Good qualities for human
2 on August 31, 2019

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe SriVarAha MahAdEsikAya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam

Swamy,
In certain cases we understand the Guru’s shApam to Karna which states the learned mantras won’t work.

Similarly Rishi’s shApam to Hanuman you will forget these things and it will.work only if someone reminds you

Whereas we say mantrAs will work whether you know the meaning and recite or recite without knowing the meaning as a flame burns finger whether we touch knowingly or unknowingly.

If that’s the case how come Rishis can create limitations on the effect of MantrAs?

Dasanudasan

 
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1 on August 31, 2019

Swamy,

Was not the shapam to Karna he will forget the mantra? The shapam to Hanuman was that he will forget his powers. There was no limitation on the effect of Manthras. Adiyen feels the Phalam aspect comes under Bhagavan’s jurisdiction. So no one can alter the effects of Manthras I hope.

Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan

on September 1, 2019

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe SriVarAha MahAdEsikAya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam

Swamy,

Whatever , we understand that Maharishi Vishwamitra submitted all.his powers to SriRam and went to forest again.

My question is, the Phalan is controllable or not?
If it’s my power how can you control?

Phalan undu means onnu balicha dhana adhukku per Phalan. Balikkadha vishayathai Phalan endru eppadi solla mudiyum?

Thee sutta dhan adharkku madhippu, sudamal.seiya Sita PirAtti yAl mudindhadhu. Hanumanukku, Prahladhanukku , pirAttikkum kuda suda villai.

AnAl Samudra Rajan SriRamanidam vazhi vida mudiyAdhu adhu iyarkkaikku mArAnadhu neengal bridge katti kollingal endraar.

KrishnavadhArathil yamunai vazhi vittadhu

Orey kuzhappamaga irukkiradhu adiyen

Dasanudasan

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