Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:
Assuming Adiyen not seen the photo or picture of SriRam.
If Adiyen gets into dhyAnam will SriRam come in SriRam’s form? With bow & arrow.
If yes, what is the roopam of Sri Hari?
Why instead of SriHari came Sri Narasimha?
Dasanudasan
When Ratnakara did nama-dhyanam (“maramaramaramaara”), he became inquisitive to know about the gunam of Perumal; Sage Naradha revealed to him the gist of SriRama’s leelai on earth. Soon the full details of leelai of SriRama unfolded in his heart! He composed Ramayana.
Thus in his case, nama dhyanam led to realisation of roopam, gunam and leelai of SriRama.
adiyen dasan.
Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:
Swamy, Adiyen thought of this vAlmiki Swamy event. PrahlAdhan did SriHari NAma sankeerthanam & dhyAnam, why Perumal came in Nara Hari Roopam?
Then he should come in the roopam entangled with the SriHari nAmA correct?
Dasanudasan
I am just happy Perumal came! Not keen to confuse myself further.
In Samskrtam, Hari = Simha = Lion. May be that is why!!
adiyen.
Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:
Adiyen thought that also. Hari=Lion. He was Nara-Hari though. Anyway it means Perumal reveals at his will not as how we want him to be.
May be it’s different from what Krishna said in Bhagavath Gita ?
I will come the way you want
My want or his will?
Dasanudasan
Swamy,
Kelvi mAthi kekkattumA?
RAma dhyAnam panninA Kannan varuvArA?
VandhA correctA? Illa vandhAley porum nu vitudanumA?
Dasanudasan
Is nAmA and Roopam.associated or not?
Adiyen remember Velukkudi Swamy telling
“VEDIC Words & meanings were together time immemorial”
Swamy ,
Got answer.
Sabari mAtA saw SriRam without knowing his appearance before. May be Guru might have described his appearance.
Dasanudasan
Swamy, adiyen do not have knowledge to answer such intricate details.
I know this much – even if ‘mara’ is not His name, if someone chants that He out of his compassion assumes His name is being chanted and bestows special blessings.
அடியாருக்கு அடியவர். ஏதும் செய்யகூடியவர்.
adiyen dasan.
Please think along the lines of our swamy’s instruction in EnPani 2150 பகவானின் புரியாத பகுதி.
அடியேனின் புரிதல்: நமக்கு பக்தி இருக்கும் அளவுக்கேற்ப அவரை பற்றி ஞானம் வளரும். பக்தியில் ஆளமாய் செல்ல முயலுகையில் அவரை பற்றிய ஞானமும் தானாகவே வளரும். மாறாக அவரை பற்றிய ஞானத்தை தேடி சென்றால் பக்தி தானாகவே வளருமா என்பது சந்தேகம்! பக்தி அற்ற ஞானம் ஆபத்தானது!
ஏனவே அவரை பற்றி ஞானம் வேண்டுமானால் அடியேன் செய்ய வேண்டியது, பக்தியில் ஆழமாவது மட்டுமே.
இது அடியேனின் நிலைப்பாடு. மாற்று கருத்துகளும் valid ஆக இருக்கலாம்.
அடியேன் தாசன்.
அடியாருக்கடியேன் என்றல்லவா இருக்க வேண்டும்?!
அடியேனுக்கு அடியேன் என்றால் ‘I am a servant of myself’ என்று பொருள் ஆகுமல்லவா?
அடியேன்.
A translation of “Dasanudasan” Swamy.
When Adiyen learnt SandhyAvandhanam from Krishna Kumar (Veda Vith) VAthiyAr in SriRangam , a student (vAthiyAr) Sampath Kumaran taught Adiyen.
When Adiyen said “Adiyen”
He will say “Adiyenukku Adiyen”
Something like “Dasanukku Dasan”
If it is wrong Adiyen will change it
Dasanudasan
No swamy. Honestly I don’t know enough to say it is wrong or not. It just appeared to me that ‘adiyen’ is a first person (தன்னிலை) adjective. அடியார்க்கு indicates முன்னிலை and படர்கை (second person and third person).
if you have heard from someone as you have mentioned, probably it is correct.
adiyen dasan.
Kambandasan Swamy,
We all souls are females to Perumal
SriRamanujar said in SriRangam
“Srirangan mazhaikku ThiruvAnai Kovil mandapam odhunguvAn, nAn pathivrathai, anya idam sella mudiyAdhu”
Naanum Penne
Adiyen Pen
Adiyen NAyikA
Azhwargal nAyikA bhAvam edharkku kondArgal?
Pen than bharthAvirkku adimaiyAga irukka kudiyaval
Adiyen en Guruvirkku adimai
Adiyen en AchAryanukku Adimai
Adiyen en PerumALukku Adimai
Adiyen AdiyArukku Adimai
This physical body is actually a “mistaken-identity”
Dasanudasan
Viram swamy,
Perumal is the only Purusha; we are His stree is a philosopical truth.
He is the only original and completely independent person, therefore Purusha. We all are His expansions and are dependent on Him, therefore stree.
But that does not mean that the everyone has only female roles in our kainkaryam in Vaikuntha. There are male roles also. And there are other very important roles also. What gender is the grass that does the kainkaryam of making the surface soft for Perumal to walk? What gender is the bacteria that is engaged in the kainaryam of converting milk to curd for Perumal? They are also Vaikunthavasis, right?
எனவே அடியேன் ஆண் அல்லன், பெண் அல்லன் அலியும் அல்லன். எந்த கைங்கர்யம் கொடுக்கப்படுகிறதோ அதற்கு தகுந்த அடையாளம் ஏந்தி அந்த கைங்கர்யம் மூலம் அவருக்கு உவப்பு ஏற்படுத்துவதே ஆசை.
அடியேன்
