Devas and Asuras

Updated on July 7, 2021 in Goddess
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If both Asuras and Devas were involved in churning the Amrutha, why does the lord decides to give it only to Devas? If both are equal, it should have been shared equally..

 
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In general Devas were dharmic and asuras were adharmic. (there are exceptions like Prahalada and Bali who were dharmic although born in asuric lineage).

Since Perumal declares that He descends to establish dharma and those who follow dharma, He appeared as Mohini avataram to ensure that the Devas got the Amrutham.

adiyen dasan.

on July 4, 2021

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam

Swamy,
Adding to it, Sriman NArAyaNa says “AsurAs by nature will want to grab the head portion of the snake, so Indra, allow them to hold it”

So it is clear that it is the “Supression of EGO/AhankAram and MamakAram”

Even while giving amrutham Mohini asks “Shouldn’t only weak get the amrutham first? AsurAs says yes” 😊

So moment we say “we are strong and consider others weak we become AsurAs”

Similarly Indran did ApachAram of putting the Flower garland prasAdham of Sri Mahalakshmi thAyAr and he lost his riches.

Perumal was indeed sama Dharshana: by all means

Going by this logic

Dasanudasan

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Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri Velukkudi Ranganathan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam
Sri:

On UpanyAsam of BhakthisArar Krishna Premi Anna’s grandson says:

“AsurAs also break the Dhavam, devAs also break the Dhavam, so what difference does it make?”

Intention matters.

There is always “Vignam” to good things in some form.

Dasanudasan

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Are we coming to conclusions all Devas are good? All Asuras are evil? Why did we need the support of evil if we have to cheat? All preaching says Asuras and Devas have equal roles and responsibilities..

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Swami it is other way round..until a soul is good and obedient to Lord and sastras he is called deva.

Reg why asuras were engaged in churning?
Engaging them is a service that they do without their knowing..like how criminals are engaged in prison..
In this case it may appear to us that their help was needed as a must..but it is not so..

Giving nectar to a person with wrong mindset is the actual cheating..as he will remain in that body and mindset and suffer more..instead they were made.to serve and some of their sins were reduced..then without nectar, they were quickly able to.progress to next life , as an opportunity to progress further.

I am sure this answer might seem to be dodging..but nevertheless there are many reasons why Lord does what he does..

A more simpler reason could be demons cheated common people by force and control.and reaped back.
( they ruled the world as if it was created by them.and had their own laws instead of Godly laws)

Adiyen
Thirukachidaasanudasan.

on July 5, 2021

Dhanyosmi Swamy
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Srimate Raamanujaye Namaha,

Happened to read this verse today. Thought it is relevant to this thread.

Krishna says in Bhavgavat Geeta  10.36

dyūtaṁ chalayatām asmi
tejas tejasvinām aham
jayo ’smi vyavasāyo ’smi
sattvaṁ sattvavatām aham

I am also the gambling of cheats, and of the splendid I am the splendor. I am victory, I am adventure, and I am the strength of the strong.

Adiyen

Thirukachidaasanudasan

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Raamanujacharya’s commentary on this verse:

“Lord Krishna reveals that of cheaters His vibhuti or divine, transcendental opulence is gambling the art of plundering those who cheat. His vibhuti is victory for the victorious and His vibhuti is perseverance for the enterprising . The word sattvam refers to goodness and of those who are good, His vibhuti is the magnanimity and goodness they possesses.”

Adiyen

on July 6, 2021

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

Swamy ,
Isn’t it interesting to note, the Gita aligns with VishistAdvaitic principles

🌸Nalla Gunangal udayavan
🌸Ketta Gunangal attravan

Supreme means , supreme in everything
😊

குறை ஒன்றும் இல்லாத கோவிந்தன்

Dasanudasan

on July 6, 2021

Swamy, Could not understand the link between Vishishtadwaita principle(Cit and acit are different but parts of Bhagawaan’s Thirumeni)  and the above aspect of Lord being best in all qualities. May be you can  explain your thought.

Adiyen

 

on July 7, 2021

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Sri Varaha Mahadesikaya Namaha
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy Thiruvadigaley Sharanam

Sri:

If we think poison is bad. For a snake 🐍 the poison brings food. Even in poison Perumal resides.

Dasanudasan

on July 7, 2021

Dhanyosmi Swamy.

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