Sri Ramanuja Munaye Namaha,
Sri Velukkusi Krishnan Swami Guruve Namaha,
Adiyen understanding based on Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami’s THiruUllam as follows,
“A) For Ramanuja Sambhandhis, if the interest is to understand Perumal’s Thirumeni Proliferation/expansion by visualizing the known sizes of some lokas, to think how colossal/vast Perumal’s Thirumeni is, then below is the answer.
B) If not, just for the sake of knowing it, then we (Ramanuja Sambhadhis) should avoid such interests & focus should be on Kainkaryam and SriVaikuntam, and discard any interests in knowing about any lokas in this Leela Vibhoothi, as they are “”low level”” places full of Sorrow/Suffering.We have been in those lokas in the past and finally back to pavilion (Earth) for Athma Ujjivanam with Ramanuja Sambhandham through Sri Velukkudi Swami ThiruvAdi..
C), Those who are in learning curve in spirituality, based on their own vasanas/karmas.
Swami touch bases in a different topic enpani 1095 ‘vadakku Vazhgiratha Therkku Thazkgiratha”. Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami THiruvAdigaaley Sharanam.
For type A) & C) persons, below are the references & not applicable for Type B) persons
As per Shastras, the satellite moon that we see with naked eyes is NOT the Chandra Lokam.
References: “YathiraMathaDeepika” which is originaly taken from Sri Vishnu Puranam Chapter 2 Adhyayam 1 thru 12). This is reflected in crisp in Srimadh BhagavAtam as well.
One Andakatakam” a.ka. “Andam” comprises of 14 lokams
Andam looks like as an Oval shape Egg, with center plane as “Bhoolokam”, inside which The Bhoomi (Earth) is a miniscule entity. So, Bhoolokam is NOT Bhoomi. Rather Bhoomi is inside Bhoolokam.
Swami has said in one of the past Enpani that, if we consider Bhoolokam as XY plane, then all the other 13 lokas are in Z axis, Vertical to the XY plane. 6 lokas above & 7 lokas below (adiyen mentioned incorrectly in past thread as 7 above & 6 below)
1) Bhoolokam (Center of Andam)
The Width size (linear XY plane distance end to end) of Bhoolokam is 50 crore Yojanai = 500 crore miles. (Bhoomi/Earth is only 7926 miles in diameter approx as per science). So, Bhoomi is well inside the Vast Bhoolokam.
Total height of Bhoolokam is 1 lakh Yojanas = 10 lakh miles, same as height of Meru mountain
1 yojanai – 8 miles or 10 miles. Not sure exatcly, but Swmai says 10 miles. So lets stick to 10 miles = 1yojanai..
There are 7 Dweepams in this Bhoolokam Concentric to each other like a “mathemateical Torus” (all in the same XY plane with Meru mountain as Center axis, each Dewwpams seprated with 6 oceans
The Dweepam around the Meru mountain is Jambhu Dwepam, which itself is 1 lakh Yojanai = 10 lakh miles.
The height of Meru Mountain itself is 1 lak yojanai, same as diamter of Jambhu Dweepam.
The other concetric dweepams concentric to jambhu dweepam are a bigger is Torus radius and NON- reachnable by ordianry humas like us.
So, we calling USA as Crouncha dweepam and India is Bharata Kandam is a foolishness.
The Entire Bhoomi itself is inside Jambhmu Dweepam and is minuscule in size, so the satellite moon is nothing
Based on adiyen understanding with Swami’s anugraham, now the size of the center lokam of Andam, Bhoolakam is almost clear.
2) Bhuvar Lokam (1st lokam above Bhoolokam)
Next above Bhoolokam is “Bhuvar Lokam” where Gandharvas live.
The total width linear distance is ofcourse smaller than the bhoolokam, since this lokam plane is at a upper height from the bholokam and the whole Andam is oval shape. Same way, each lokam width keep decreasing due to the oval shape Andam.
In each plane, the Lokam has its own Height.The total height of this Bhuvar lokam is 1 lakh Yojanai = 10 lakh Miles
3) Suvar Lokam (2nd lokam above Bhoolokam)
Next above is “Suvar Lokam” where Suryan, Chandran, Nakshatiram, all Grahas in heiraichical order lives starting with Suryan.
Suryan, then Chandran above, then Nakshthiram above, then Bhuthan above (Not the Mars in solar system, since Mars is inside Jambhu Dweepam which is inside Bhoolokam), then Sukhiran above, then Angharan above, then, Bruhaspathis above, then Shani (not the Saturn, since it is inside Jambhu Dweepam/Bhooloam). This Heirarchy is being said as “Simsimara Chakkaram”
The total height of this lokam is 14 lak Yojanai = 140 lakh Miles
This Chandran Deva residence is inside the ‘Suvar Lokam’, where as the satellite moon that we see is different, which is in the XY plane of Jambhu Dweepam/ Bhoolokam. The size of Suvar lokam are not even comparable with moon that we see,
Same situation with all Grahas. The planets in our solar system (Bhoolokam) are not the ones that is described in shastras. All the Grahas reside in Suvar lokam vertical Z axis of Andam.
So on, other lokams, one above the other as below order
4) Mahar lokam (Indra loam) total height of 1 crore yojanai = 10 crore miles)
5) Jano lokam (Brahmas son’s lokam) total height of 2 crore yojanai = 20 crore miles)
6) Thapo lokam (All Prajathipatis with Vairagyam live here) total height of this lokam is 8 crore yojanai = 80 crore miles
7) Sathya lokam (Avatar of Sriman NarayanAn ‘SriVishnu’ and HIS son Brahma and his son Shiva live here). Total height of this lokam is 12 crore Yojanai = 120 crore miles)
Now, in negative Z- axis, 7 lokas are BELOW the XY Bhoololam (center plane of Andam)
Each of these lokams are 10,000 Yojanai (1 lakh miles) in Width & Height. So, muliply by 7 is the total height of all these 7 lokas = 7 lakh miles height.
Then there is different ‘Naraka lokams’ below these 7 lokas which is 36,000 yojanas (3.6lakh miles) in height
Then another 30,000 yojanas of something belwo these.
Overall, one “ANDAM or AndaKatakam’ comprises of 14 lokas
Width of one Andam is 50 crore yojanai = 500 crore miles (which is the Bhooloakm
Not sure of total height of Andam. May be we can sum up all lokas height
as 23 crore 17lakh yojanas = 230 crore and 17 lakh miles.
Please refer to the above actual references and read it for one’s own understanding, as adiyens understanding could be different.
As mentioned initially, for type A) & C) persons, the above are the references and NOT applicable for Type B) persons.
Either way, the point is, when we ourselves cannot see the end of an ordinary road itself, where and how can we see or understand this One Andam. Like this there are Millions of Andams.
All these millions of Andams together is called as “Leela Vibhoothi (Materialistic World)”
Each Andam has One Brhama [post and One Shiva Post. Brahma in one andam cana be powerful than Brahma of another Andam, same way this Shiva. All these posts are occupied by JeevAThmas like us.
The Controller of this LeelVibhoothi is “Sriman NarayanAn”
This Leela Vibhoothi is only 1/3rd of the full size. The remaining 3/4th is called a “THRIPATH VIBHOOTHI” or Moksham, SriVaikuntam or ParamaPadham or NIthya BIbhoothi (Spiritual World), which is beyond the Virajai River, which should be our (Sharanagathas) focus.
Both Leela Vibhoothi & Nithya VIbhoothi are Body “THirumeni of PERUMAL. That BIG is PERUMAL.
Moon’ irundha yenna, illaeynna namakku yenna. Indiaviil Grahanam vandhal yenna, USAvil varalaenna namakku yenna. Namakku yellarukkum Ramanuja Sambhandham irukkiradha, adhu podhum. Sri Velukkudi Swami Thiruvadigalaey Sharam Yendrum sollum Ovvoruttharukkum, Ramanuja Sambhandham aagi vittadhu, appuram vaera yenna vaendum namakku.
Perumal Sings a Striking Minnale Song,
வேறன்ன வேறன்ன வேண்டும், ஒரு முறை சொன்னால் போதும், நிலவையும் (moon) உந்தன் (our) கால் மிதியாக (foot mat) வைப்பேனே. சொல்லவும் கூட வேண்டாம், கண் இமைத்தாலே போதும், கேள்விகள் இன்றி உயிரையும் தருவேனே….
“Oru murai” Sharanam yendru sonnaal podhum. SriRama Charama slokam, Sakrudeva Prapannaya tahvaismidhe yachathey………(one time you say Sahranam, I will clear your Karmas. Rama Dhvir Nambhi BHashathe (Raman Oru Thadava Sonna, 100 thadavai sonnadhukku maelay, Maru PEtchu KIdayadhu)
Swami Thiruvadiyil Kainkaryme Parama Purusharttham.
Adiyen Sri Velukkudi Krishna Dasan,
Uyya Oraey Vazhi UdayavAr THiruvAdi
Sarvam SriKRishnarpanam Asthu