Can Bhakti alone help us attain salvation?

Updated on July 31, 2022 in Good qualities for human
12 on July 14, 2022

NamaskAram Swami!

Though it would be illogical to question the importance of bhakti (devotion) in attaining moksham, can that factor alone ensure Vaikuntha prApthi for us?

Adiyen happened to read a few articles which state that without the true understanding of Tatvam, Hitham, and PurushArtham (VishishtAdvaita paramAna), bhakti (even on Perumal) cannot take us through the path of eternal bliss.

If someone is so devoted to perumAl without a complete understanding (say with some pending doubts) of the above factors, wouldn’t bhagawan still make sure that his devotee reaches the destination?

– Adiyen

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0 on July 17, 2022

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

Bhagawan will take care anyways

Bhakthi Roopapanna nyAnam

Devotion combined with knowledge will take closer to Bhagawan

Bhakthi yogam requires NyAnam
NyAna Yogam requires Bhakthi
– Srimath Thirukkudanthai Andavan

Even for a fool like me Perumal will give Moksham

I am having lot of doubts on Perumal which is against Prapanna Lakshanam

Because to me Prapatti was initiated by Velukkudi and guaranteed by Andavan Swamigal

I was inspired by SriVaikuntam but not because of confidence in Perumal. It’s my want that propelled!!!

Main Prapanna Lakshanam according to Swamy Desikan is

Maha Vishwasam

So as an agyAni, I am always short of Maha Vishwasam

Then how will.I get Moksham?

Not because of my Vishwasam on Perumal

To me , My AchAryan is my complete confidence

My Acharya Vishwasam to get my Prapatti poorthi

I am the belonging of my Andavan

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

So his holiness will take care of his belonging

As Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy said:

The field owner will nod his head
I am the paddy
Aham Annam Aham Annam Aham AnnAdO


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2 on July 21, 2022

Seri, Swami! 

Adiyen actually recalled an article published in the “Sri Ranganatha Paduka” (probably 7-8 years ago), where a swami emphasized this understanding as a mandate, without which mukti can’t be attained, hence the question.

– Adiyen

on July 22, 2022

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy used to say
” He has to be understood that he is not understandable”


on July 22, 2022

Pul erumbAdhi ondrindriye

What did the grass & 🐜 ant understand of Perumal?

What did dhadhi pandan the pot understand?

What did sisupAlan & Pootana understand?

What did soorpanakha understand?


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4 on July 21, 2022

Yes. Bakthi alone can give motcham, but it is the question of number of janmas and hence the time one has to take, unlike prapatti, motcham will be attained in the same janma.

on July 21, 2022

Thanks, Jayaram Swami! 

How is bhakti yogam different from prapatti? Why do achAryas differentiate both these paths? We usually hear achAryas stating sharanAgati supersedes all mArgam, including bhakti.

However, without bhakti, will anyone get desire to do sharanAgati?

Shouldn’t we identify ‘prapatti’ as a mere extension or culmination of bhakti?

– Adiyen

on July 22, 2022

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

Bhakthi is different from Bhakthi yOgam

Na bhakthi pandren nu nenachundu panna adhu bhakthi

(I am doing bhakthi)

Avan arulAl Avan thAl Panindhu

(Bhakthi is given by him to me so am doing)

Nu nenachunda Bhakthi yOgam

I think this isy understanding , Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy can clarify but I know there is a difference as Swamy used to say.

There is no “without bhakthi concept”
NyAna yOgam is not without bhakthi

Yes, prapatti is done with bhakthi only

Point here is, the bhakthi is not by our attachment

Whereas Prapatti is a declaration of “impossibility of adherance”

I am not worth bhakthi yOgam
I am not worth nyAna yOgam
I am not work karma yogam

So am doing Prappatti.

Those adhikAris are directed to do respective yOgam by Krishna

We are not adhikari to any one of above margams

So sharanAgathi/ prapatti our only resort

Premam= Bhakthi
Paarathanthriyam = sharanAgathi

Does adimai love his boss? It depends.

Do you see prema bhAvam in jata Bharathar?

Do you think Jata Bharathar doesn’t have premam towards Brahmam? Only Brahmam knows!!!


on July 22, 2022

srivats swamy,

Bakthi is different from bakthi yogam. I would put bakthi yogam as “bakthi as a way of life”. Following bakthi yogam is very difficult. I think Azhwars’ life is example of bakthi yogam.

Prapatti is totally surrendering to Him. Prapannan has bakthi.

The basis of acharyas’ views on bakthi yogam and prapatti are scriptures. You would have been aware about charama sloka, BG 18.66.

A prapannan might have bakthi before saranagathi and will continue to have bakthi, post saranagathi. There is no necessary that prior to prapatti one need to be a baktha.

Acquiring knowledge about Creator, Self etc., can also lead to prapatti without bakthi.

Consider the case : One who is interested to know about the origin of creation, what we are and why we are here etc., explore in their own way and some of them will read sacred texts. Those read sacred texts need not have bakthi. They read to get knowledge only. Once they get the knowledge about the Creator, reason for our existence and things of such nature, some will be propelled to explore further. Some of them may try to find a way to attain motcham and follow. Few may take up saranagathy and become a prapannan. Probably, such cases, taking prapatti may be lesser. Prapatti then bring bakthi.

Bagavat Gita gives more details on three yogams. For more clarity, I would suggest you (probably you would have listened already) to listen to Bagavat Gita by sri. Velukkudi Krishnan swamy, to know in detail about bakthi yogam and prapatti on the respective chapters.


on July 25, 2022

Oralvu purigiradhu, Swami! 

ThAngal bhaktiyile sadA moozhgiyirupadhai yogam endru koora varugireergal endru ninaikkiren.

Most of us will not succeed in it, hence prapatti would be the appropriate mArgam.

– Adiyen

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2 on July 22, 2022

Where is my beloved Kambandasan Swamy?

on July 25, 2022

Kambandasan Swami,

I echo Vikram Swami’s opinion.

Why this conspicuous silence? Hope you are doing well?

– Adiyen 

on July 31, 2022

Swamy seems to well with ThAyAr Perumal anugraham.

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