Namaskaram.
Srimad Narayanaya Namaha.
Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha.
Today I listened to enpani audio #1666 on “பாகவத அபசாரத்தை தீர்த்துக் கொள்வது எப்படி”. Swamy was mentioning about daily Slokas for seeking forgivingness of such apacharams. He mentioned about the sloka during Thiruvaradhanam. Is there any other Slokas in this regard?. I would like to know the Slokas.
adiyen
Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,
Namaskaram Jayaram Swami,
With Acharya ThiruvAdi Bhalam and Velukkudi Sri Krishnan Swami’s Aasirvadham, here is one for devareer’s query.
In “Sri Yathiraja Prarthana Panchakam“, adiyaars pray couple of things on Lotus Feet of Swami RamanujAr of which in the 4th slokam, we pray to forgive any of the three types of Apacharams committed Knowingly and/or unknowingly in the PAST and PRESENT, and for FUTURE please make us not to commit any of the three types of Apacharams by keeping us involved in Devareer’s ThiruvAdi Kainkaryams with Devareer’s Krupa Kataksham as below:
yathA AparAdhA nassyurme bhaktyEsu bhagavatyapi
thathA laksmana yogIndra yAvaddeham pravartaya ||
There is Detailed upanyasam on “Prarthana Panchakam” by Velukkudi Sri Krishnan Swamigal.
In short, Adiyen also detailed about the 3 Apacharams from Swami’s upanyasams in the past as in below link with Acharya ThiruvAdi Bhalam and Velukkudi Sri Krishnan Swami’s Aasirvadham of which BhagavAta Apacharam is the one that has serious effects.
Adiyen (ElayaAlwar) Srinivasa (DhoddayAcharyar) Dasan.
Namaskaram ElayaAlwar swamy.
Thank you for your response.
Of the four Apacharams, what are the three Apacharams for which one pray to forgive through this sloka. Any prayer for the fourth Apacharam.
I could not get the video of the upanyasam on “Prarthana Panchakam” by Velukkudi Sri Krishnan swamy through Google search. I am checking with others.
Such prayers, I believe are essential, since one is prone to do such apacharams, may I say frequently.
adiyen
Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,
Namaskaram Jayaram Swami,
Primarily the 2),3),4) Apacharams to be avoided if Athma Ujjivanam and Moksham and Kainkaryam is ones focus.
1) is something that one needs to refrain if Satvika Gunam improvement is ones focus, but all 4 are inter related since it attracts BhagavAn Sriman NarayanAn’s Kopam if done.
So,
In Srivachana bhushanam divya Grantham, in sUtrams 300 to 307, Swami piLLai lOKAchAryar explains that a srivaishnava must be Ashakthan (incapable to do) in these following 4 matters:
1) akruthya karaNam – not indulging in what is rejected in ShAstram
2) bhagavadh apachAram – apachArams in emperumAn’s (Perumal/SriKrishna) vishayam
3) bhAgavatha apachAram – apachArams in bhAgavatha vishyam
4) asahya apachAram – apachArams in bhagavadh/bhAgavatha vishayam that happens without any reason
Breakdown details of each of the above four things are in the below link with Acharya ThiruvAdi Bhalam and Velukkudi Sri Krishnan Swami’s Aasirvadham.
So adiyaars pray on Swami Ramanujar Lotus Feet to keep us engaged in Swami Ramanujar ThiruvAdi Kainkaryam, so that our mind doesn’t focus on unnecessary things that will lead to any of the Apacharam.
Adiyen (ElayaAlwar) Srinivasa (DhoddayAcharyar) Dasan.
Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,
Yes Devareer can chant daily ‘n’ number of times to show gratitude on Swami Ramanujar ThiruvAdi. Please check in Kinchit website ‘Contact Us’ tab to send email or check the ‘Volunteers’ tab and call them and ask how to get Velukkudi Sri Krishnan Swami’s “Prarthana Panchakam” CD.
Also in Swami’s “Sharanagathy Gadhyam”, Swami mentions about all the Apacharams in detail. Devareer can also check with KKT, how to get Swami’s this CD as well.
Though searching in internet is great, Swami’s many CD’s are not available for public, since it is meant for interested candidates only under special circumstances and Adiyen believe it will be ideal to contact the source KKT website for Swami’s these two CD’s, if devareer is interested to listen and follow.
What is devareer’s thought process about adiyen’s suggestion?.
Adiyen (ElayaAlwar) Srinivasa (DhoddayAcharyar) Dasan.
Srimad Narayanaya Namaha.
Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha.
Namaskaram ElayaAlwar swamy.
Thank you for your response.
I purchased 6 CDs, couple of months back, including vaikunda gadyam and saranagathy (expecting to be saranagathy gadyam, but realized to be different). Saranagathy gadyam and prarthana panchakam are not in the list @ velukkudi discourses. However, I will check with them.
Is that sloka is for apacharams 2,3 and 4?.
Yes. I indeed went through the details of four Apacharam by Swami piLLai lOKAchAryar couple of months back.
adiyen
Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,
Namaskaram Jayaram Swami,
Sounds good.
Don’t worry too much about the Apacharam slokams, since our mind will start dwelling unnecessarily on these Apacharams, like which slokam to chant for a particular apacharam. Eventually what will happen over a period of time is, it will wear out our mind and Shanthi. So just focus on Swami RamanujAr SriSookthigal and start learning sandhai slowly, devareer will start seeing blissfulness with Acharya RamanujAr ThiruvAdi Krupai.
Adiyen (ElayaAlwar) Srinivasa (DhoddayAcharyar) Dasan.
Srimad Narayanaya Namaha.
Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha.
Namaskaram ElayaAlwar swamy.
Thanks for the suggestion. Need details on
“Swami RamanujAr SriSookthigal and start learning sandhai”.
As usual could get in Google search.
adiyen
Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,
Namaskaram Jayaram Swami,
As devareer requested, here are some Swami RamanujAr “SriSookthigal“, basically those are slokas about Swami RamanujAr written by other PoorvAcharyas, few examples as below:
1) Bhashyakara Avayava Mangala slokam (it’s also called Ramanuja Avayava Prabhavam: like how Swami NamAlwar and other AcharyAs are present as Angams of Swami RamanujAr’s Thirumeni”
2) RamanujAr Kattiyam,
3) Ramanuja Suprabhatam,
4)Ramanuja Astotharam Sathanaama stotram, by Vaduga Nambhi Swami,
5) Yathiraja Saptathi written by Swami Vedanta Desikan,
6) Yathira Vimsathi & Arthi Prabhandham written by Swami Manavaala Maamunigal,
so on……
Devareer can find many more in this “Prapatti” SriVaishnava website in PDF in couple of languages and some has audios as well. Devareer can listen and learn with Acharya Ramanuja Krupai.
As discussed earlier, it’s all to show GRATTITUDE to Swami RamanujAr and GuruParamparai for the Blessings received through ones own Asmadh Acharyan and Common GyanAcharya’s like Velukkudi Sri Krishnan Swami and other Upanyasakars.
https://www.prapatti.com/stotras.php
Does this help little bit Jayaram Swami.
ADIYEN (ELAYAALWAR) SRINIVASA (DHODDAYACHARYAR) DASAN.
Namaskaram ElayaAlwar Swamy,
This is the website from where I listened to Srimad Bhagavatam and few other audios several months back. It has large number of audios of various upanyasagars. But I was not aware about the details on Swami RamanujAr “SriSookthigal“ in this site, since I do not know about the details as listed by you above. I will check up leisurely.
Thank you for the information.
adiyen
Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,
Namaskaram Jayaram Swami and all devotees,
Due to Sandhai conversations in this thread Adiyen would like to add Velukkudi Sri Krishnan Swami’s #1954 to this thread (just thought about it) where Swami has beautifully graced by encouraging devotees about Sandhai and more.
Adiyen (ElayaAlwar) Srinivasa (DhoddayAcharyar) Dasan
Namaskaram ElayaAlwar Swamy,
I heard Enpani #1954 yesterday. Sri Velukkudi Krishnan swamy was mainly mentioning about the difficulty for elders in doing மனப்பாடம். I read few of several spiritual texts, I never attempted to do மனப்பாடம். Basically because I do not know the language and read on my own, though I read Gita in my twenties. I always try to get the meaning and essence of the text. Incidentally, I am remembering the songs which I was listening more than 45 years back, even though I don’t listen to them now. I always believe, language is not a barrier for worshipping. Anything one convey to Him in his own words will reach Him.
By the by, what does sandhai mean here, Is that மனப்பாடம் or learning or teaching.
adiyen
Srimate Ramanujaye Namaha,
Jayaram swamy, sandhai is the traditional way in which slokas, vedic verses etc are taught in gurukula. The Guru states the verse in parts of small phrases and the students follow it. After some days the length of the phrases are increased slowly..eventually after some.time the student will memorize the verse.
There are some sandhai recordings in kinchitkaram website.
Adiyen
enpanifan swamy,
Thank you for the clarification.
I could see a mention at the top of the thread that you have posted in the thread “Modern Technologies …….” after mine a few days back. But couldn’t see the post either in laptop or moblie due to the length of the thread.
adiyen
enpanifan swamy,
Thank you for the details and sandhai ref.
I think you have referenced and remarked based on Mahabharatam part 201 that Modern technologies have no mention in Vedas. My point also is the same. Hence, finally there is no different views.
adiyen
I think it is Mahabharatam part 205 and not part 201.
Even, in this thread, if we press reply and post, it is not readable in mobile.
adiyen
