As there is no pancha bhootha Shareeram to Athman then why athman referred as “Anu mathra Swaroopan”?
What is there in size when there is no shape?
Srimathey Ramanujaya Namaha
As far as the size is concerned, it would be something like this.
” we take a rice grain, cut the tip of it. break that tip in to 100 pieces. take one piece out of that 100 and break that again in to 100 pieces. Now pick one piece out of these 100 pieces ” An atman will be much smaller than this piece.
It is impossible to see an atman with pancha bhootha eyes. Paramatman stays inside this Atman as well. so there should definitely be some size / shape as well although we are not able to comprehend it.
Not sure if the answer is convincing/ right. But this is all that Adiyen knows.
Resp. Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy,
Thank you very much for providing detailed information on ‘Aatma Darshanam’.
A small observation. In youtube it is referred as Enpani #1856. I believe 1857 to 1875 are not yet released before this audio.
I am neither confronting not arguing. I am just stating my experience. Hence, kindly do not take it as an offense.
I interacted with few people who explained about their experience of “atma darshanam” through meditation. Couple of them had it through their Guru’s blessings and others on their own. I am not sure whether they have the qualities / characteristics mentioned in Enpani #1856. May be the process is different in the case of meditation.
1. During Aatma Darshanam what one see is whether atman or Sookshma Shareeram or Sookshma Shareeram with atman.
2. This darshan is seen from outside the Shareeram. Since normally one’s eyes are closed (that is what I suppose), what is the media through which it is seen. Probably because Sookshma Shareeram with atman carriers jnana and karma indriyas. This shows that atman can see after leaving the body also. My view can be corrected.
Srimate Ramanujaye Namaha,
Jayaram swamy, i have also heard such claims from.people who follow mediation process..i think what they feel is the life force or praana shakthi which they assume as soul …this is my understanding..not sure as i have not gone into depths of that process..
Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,
Namaskaram Jayaram Swami,
Also just fyi not related to your query but based on devareer listening Swami’s Enpani on YouTube:
Velukkudi Sri Krishnan Swami’s Enpani audios are first released in “Enpani App” on EVERYDAY which the subscribers listen where the Enpani numbers and audio match. Later additionally it is being added to Swami’s YouTube “Velukkudi discourses” for public. So there is possibility that there could be a error in this secondary upload or a delayed upload YouTube. However depending upon volunteers busy schedule, a group of Swami’s Enpani’s could be uploaded at a later time as well, which doesn’t mean there was no Swami’s Enpani audios during that period, since Enpani App has Swami’s everyday short audios. So Adiyen would request devareer to have Enpani App if devareer is Keen on listening to Swami’s Enpani audios daily. If devareer already have Swami’s Enpani App, please ignore this post.
Adiyen (ElayaAlwar) Srinivasa (DhoddayAcharyar) Dasan