974 Soorpanakha attacked Sithamma PirAtti

Updated on April 4, 2018 in Goddess
15 on April 1, 2018

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

Lakshmana Swamy simply did not cut Soorpanakha. She attacked Sitamma thinking because of Amma her offers were denied.

Summa edhukku oru ponna vetta porAr Swamy?

Only yesterday Sri Hariji Swamy son of Krishna Premi Anna said in Mumbai upanyasam in Sundara Kandam Sankara TV 7PM IST.

So women empowerment has no role here. A woman need to have woman qualities to qualify as a woman.

Lankini edhukku Hanumanai adichA? Why did lankini slap lord Hanuman? Should Hanuman keep quiet ?

Dasanudasan

 
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Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,

Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Guruve Nahama,

 

Swami says the main point “Avargaludaya Asura thanmayai paarka vaendum, Seiydhadhu Kuttrama-illaya yendru dhaan paarkka vaendum”. Aano-Penno mukyam illai (male or female) is not important here.

 

So, once CHARACTER (GUNAM) is more important. ‘Nallavargala’ illa ‘THeeyavargala’ yendru paarkka vaendum. BHagavAN SriRam looks beyond once appearance (if male or female), HE sees their Gunas/Behaviour, if not favorable as per SHastras and is in a destructive manner to others, then HE takes them down.

 

Swami has said in the past that, ALL JEEVATHMAS are FEMALE, and ONLY MALE “PURUSHOTTHAMAN is BhagavAn SRIRAMA”.

 

So, THaataka or Poothana or Soorpanka are FEMALE (Jeevathams) but in a WOMEN Sthoola Body, and SUbhahu, Ravan, Hiranshakashibhu etc.. are also FEMALE (Jeevathmas) but in a MALE Sthoola body, but all are FEMALES ‘JeevAThmas’.

 

Technically, BHagavAN PUrushothanam ‘ ONLY MALE’, always KIlls a Female, means KIlls the “Female Jeevathmas Anaadhi Kaala Embedded THeeya Gunam/Bad Behaviour/Avidhya/Ahankaram/Mamakaram”.

 

To achieve this task BhagavAn SriRam uses “SHASSTRAM (weapons like bow and arrow/vaal (sword),

but SriRama’s anujan(brother) Swami Ramanujar uses “SHAASTRAM (rule book) and Ull-vaal (Krupa Kataksham). So who is better.

 

Adiyen Sri Velukkudi Krishna Dasan,

Uyya Oraey Vazhi UdayavAr ThiruvAdi,

SIta Mayya Sri Rama BhagavAN Ki Jai,

 

Vaazhi Yethiraazan Vaazhi Yethiraazan yena Vaazhuthuvaar,…….

 

Sarvam SriKrishnarpanam Asthu,

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0 on April 2, 2018

Ramanujar is better no doubt
My Lakshmana Muni is better

VEdantha Lakshmana Muneendra Krupaatha BOdham
TathpAda yugma saraseeruha brunga raajam
Thrayandha yugma krudhaboori parishramam tham
Sriranga Lakshmana Munim Sharanam prapadye
Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha
Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

An Asura by birth is Prahladan. BanAsura knows Vishnu is great. So SriRama does not see who by birth but how one is.

Indra and dEvas are Asuric many times. Why was the need of Ahalya Devi ShApa vimOchanam?

When it comes to lowkikam and vaideeham the question is should we mix things?

When talking about sAmAnya dharmAs male & female should we bring in visEsha dharma All athmAs are female?

If all athmAs are female why Perumal created male & female body? Why Perumal does not fight against women as per shAstram?

Dasanudasan

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Hare Krishna! Aneha koti namaskaram to Sri Velukkudi Swami & devotees.

Here is what Srila Prabhupada swami describes about male & female. The one who enjoys is male and one who is being enjoyed is female. Lord being enjoyer, he is male, all Jiva’s are females because the existence of Jivas is for lord’s pleasure. Here, out of ignorance/maya, the Jivas think that they are the enjoyers (which is the purpose why jivas are caught in samsara).

 

Applying the same definition to the Jivas/achit, say, if a woman wants to have a ice cream, the woman is the male and ice cream is female. So the definition of male/female does not go with the gross body but by who assumes the role of enjoyer against the one being enjoyed.

 

Request devotees to forgive if there is any expression inappropriate/offensive, rather request devotees to take away only the ‘message’

 

Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanam!

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Bhagavad Gita 16.14: ‘This enemy is slain by me; and others also I shall slay. I am the Lord, I am the enjoyer, I am successful, I have strength, I have happiness.’

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Hare Krishna!

So in this case, we can imagine soorpanakha trying to act as ‘male’ by developing desire on the lord.

Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanam!

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Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,

Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Guruvae Namaha,

 

Dear BhagavAtas,

 

Swami NamAlwar is female ‘JeevAthma’ in male Sthoola body as NamAlwar, but wanted to show Swami’s Love/Affection/Anbu to Perumal, so Swami changes back from sthoola Male state to Female True state as “Parankusa Nayaki” as a women and chants Divya Prabhandhams.

 

Same way, Swami ThiruMangai Alwar female JeevaAthma in male sthola body as ‘Kaliyan’ showers Swami’s  love/affection/anbu to Perumal as “Parakala Nayaki” true female JeevAthma form.

 
Like how to judge, if adiyen (female JeevAthma) is actually in a male sthoola body, but trying to reflect Nayaki bhaavam using name as kongilpiratti. It is difficult to tell by names, but easy to identify adiyens true swaroopam as female ‘Jeevathma’.

Yes, the intention is to follow the Samaanya Dharmam while in male or female Sthoola body ROOPAM (external appearance), but we need to keep remembering our true SWAROOPAM (female Jeevathmas) as Vishesha Dharmam.

 
Nayaki Bhaavam Seiydheno Nam-Mangai Alwargal Pole,

Adiyen Sri Velukkudi Krishna Dasan,

Uyya Oraey Vazhi UdayavAr ThiruvAdi,

Sarvam SriKrisharpanam Asthu.

on April 3, 2018

Hare Krishna! Adiyenukku oru sandeham (dharma ‘sankatamana’ sandeham). Konkilpiratti enbathu, nayaki bhAvama ? illai nayakiyeva ?

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3 on April 3, 2018

Sri:
We call it “mood swings” in English. Bhavam is at times ecstatic. When consciousness is regained we are back to the practical world. Maha rishis like Sukha brahmam is long lasting in this “Sarvam khalvidam Brahma” bhavam.

The reason Krishna Dasan swamy asking that question is because of practical difficulty.

In true sense if one goes to that emotional level that we are all females and he is that only male we won’t fit in this practical world.

It is the time which visEsha dharmam is applicable & not sAmanya dharmam.

Sukha brahmam’s father Veda Vyasa Swamy though knowledgeable but did not transform the knowledge into self realization. Meaning at bhavam level he wasn’t experiencing as Sukhar. That’s what we can listen from stories.

Udayavar’s bhArya did not do any mistake but was adhering to brahmin’s sAmAnya dharmam. A practice that was more prevalent during those days. Interestingly Udayavar thought otherwise and aligned with sanyAsa Ashrama dharmam.

Swami Ramakrishna Parama Hamsa and bhArya both are same level in understanding. Koorathazan Swamy and AndAl bhArya both at same emotional level understanding.

“Thirumana thoonai patri” nu Azhwar pAdi irukkAr. AdhukAga adhaye patri kondu irundhA veliya anupichu Kovil kadhava sAthiduva ippo. CCTV camera ? Vera.

CCTV ? = SAmAnya dharmam
Thirumana thoon = VisEsha dharmam

Enga Azhwar pAdi irukkAr na Kovil vittu poga maten nu argue Panna mudiyAdhu. Avaalukku puriyadhu.

Innoru Azhwar “PerumAla sevichuttu ungalAla eppadi Athukku pOga mudiyAradhu?” nu kEkkarAr (“How can you go back home after seeing Perumal?”)

Can we be inside temple 24/7? What Azhwar means is “this materialistic world shouldn’t bother you after seeing him”

It literally doesn’t mean be in temple always even Azhwar knows it.

Edhukku thirupAnAzhwar koilku Ulla Varalai?
Muni vAzhanan nu eppadi peyar vAnginAr?

Srivaishnavism is NOT practically understood in this material world is adiyen’s observation. It needs deeper understanding.

Kshamikka prArthikkiren

Dasanudasan

on April 3, 2018

Appuram innonu, Periya vAchAn Pillai Swamy sAdhica ethukkanum adiyEnin sondha karuthu sonnA ethukka kudAdhu nu solli tharardhum ippodhya Srivaishnavam dhAn.

Dasanudasan

on April 4, 2018

Sri Ramanuja Munaye Namaha,
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Guruvae Namaha,

Dear Vikram Bhagavata,

For Bhagavatas thought:
“Appuram innonu, Periya vAchAn Pillai Swamy sAdhica ethukkanum adiyEnin sondha karuthu sonnA ethukka kudAdhu nu solli tharardhum ippodhya Srivaishnavam dhAn.”.

Adiyen understanding is Swami Periyavachan Pillai is swayam SriKrishna BhagavAn and shishya of Swami Nampillai who is ThiriMangai Alwar. It was Bhagavan SriKrishna’s icha (wish) to become shisya of Thirumangai alwar (Nampillai) as Periyavachan pillai, since alwar got thirumantra upadesam from perumal directly in alwar avataram, so it was BhagavAn’s turn to get upadesam from Alwar.

Adhunalaey avanga sonna thaan nalla irukkum. We can also say our pazhmai maaradha iniya karutthu based on what we heard from upanyasams as “idhu dhaan naan purinchitadhu yendru” ( its adiyen understanding from upanyasams), but cannot make ‘statement’ that this is what is correct, unless we are learned, which we are aware and we don’t make it. So any Bhaktas can say open minded opinion or share bhagavat vishayam after paying gratitude towards our PoorvAcharyars/Swami, which makes BhagavAn happy, which results in our satisfaction. Edhai nyabhagatthil naam kolla vaendum.

Adiyen Sri Velukkudi Krishna Dasan,
Uyya Oraey Vazhi UdayavAr ThiruvAdi,
Sarvam SriKrisharpanam Asthu.

on April 4, 2018

Hare Krishna!

Namaskaram Vikram Swami. Please note, we live in kaliyug which is age of deterioration and so there is quarrel for trivial things at home/office etc., [very much evidenced when we see news of someone is murdered for a glass of drink/smoke]. So ‘sometime’ even satsang is not spared from the effects of kaliyug leading to arguments/debates over trial points 🙁

 

Now, adiyen’s humble thoughts over personal opinion(s): if the opinion is based on authentic ‘philosophy’ endorsed by purvacharyas and tabled in front of devotees, ONLY for the objective of ‘Aatma’ sakshatkaaram / ‘Paramaatma anubhavam’ and NOT for any personal gains, it should be welcomed. 

However, many a times, mind bewilders us to go on philosophical thinking and draws pleasure from such ‘speculations’ that acharyas have always warned about and hence they insist on having a ‘guru’ who is ‘external’ to the devotee(‘s mind) who can guide and lead us to the right path. Lord says, such binding of pleasure from knowledge/intelligence is from ‘satva’ guna.

 

Bhagavad Gita 14.6: Of these, Sattva, being without impurity, is luminous and free from morbidity. It binds, O Arjuna, by attachment to pleasure and to knowledge.

 

Request swami to forgive and correct, if there is any misunderstanding (of the question and the interpretation of acharyas teachings on the topic)

 

Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanam.

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Sri Ramanuja Munaye Namaha,
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Guruvae Namaha,

Dear Krishna BhagavAta,

For query:
“Adiyenukku oru sandeham (dharma ‘sankatamana’ sandeham). Konkilpiratti enbathu, nayaki bhAvama ? illai nayakiyeva ?”

Adiyen too have this question. It depends upon whose perspective the question is.
Like if we ask NamAlwar the same question, Swami will say that Swami is “Nayaki” (true JeevAthma identity). But if we ask others who is NamAlwar, then they say NamAlwar is “Nayaki Bhavam”. So two answers for same identity due to perspective difference and who is answering this question. So Bhagavata can call adiyen as Nayaki Bhavam to BhagavAn, and when the same question is asked to adiyen, then adiyen will say as “Nayaki (true identity as Jeevathmas are female)” to BhagavAn. But this doesn’t tell, adiyen (female jeevathma) is in male or female Sthoola body.

Like, ParamaAthma SriKrishna ( only Male) has taken Sri V.K Swamy Sthoola body, but no one knows, and Sri V.K Swamy also doesn’t even tell this to all. So why should an ordinary JeevaAthma like adiyen tell about adiyens sthoola body identity as male or female, when we kniw our true identity as female Jeevathmas. Adiyen believe, only the Vaidhika Bhagavat vishsyam needs to be discussed in Satsangam, and knowing adiyen is Nayaki Bhavam or Nayaki itself is not a Athma Ujjivanam for others.

Swami has beautifully said in one of the Enpani ‘784’ (Male Alwars Loved to be Females and Not the other way)’ that, a male can also call themselves as Dasyai to BhagavAn, considering ourselves as true female JeevAthmas like how NamAlwar and ThiruMangai Alwar has said. Swami also says, it is nothing wrong if a male calls themselves as Dasan instead of Dasyai or Female calls themselves as Dasan instead of Dasyai to BhagavAn . But the bhaavam as Dasyai to BhagavAn is important for all who are in male or female body.

Adiyen Sri Velukkudi Krishna Dasan,
Uyya Oraey Vazhi UdayavAr ThiruvAdi,
Sarvam SriKrisharpanam Asthu

on April 4, 2018

Hare Krishna!

 

Shamikkanum. The question is indeed spiritual but since unfortunately we live in kaliyug, it can only be interpreted to be a ‘material’ question. However, adiyen apologizes if the question is inappropriate.

 

However, one interesting seed for thought would like to leave. In reference to below sloka, let us think (offline) who is asking the questions and who is answering ?

 

Bg 5.8-9 — A person in the divine consciousness, although engaged in seeing, hearing, touching, smelling, eating, moving about, sleeping and breathing, always knows within himself that he actually does nothing at all. Because while speaking, evacuating, receiving, or opening or closing his eyes, he always knows that only the material senses are engaged with their objects and that he is aloof from them.

 

Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanam!

on April 4, 2018

Sri Ramanuja Munaye Namaha,
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Guruvae Namaha,

A SriVaishnavaite involves in BhagavAt Vishaya Satsangam both online and offline. So what is being discussed here will be same discussed outside as well.

Adiyen Sri Velukkudi Krishna Dasan,
Uyya Oraey Vazhi UdayavAr ThiruvAdi,
Sarvam SriKrisharpanam Asthu

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Sri Ramanuja Munaye Namaha,
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Guruvae Namaha,

Dear Vikram Bhagavata,

For concern :
“In true sense if one goes to that emotional level that we are all females and he is that only male we won’t fit in this practical world.”

Yes, practically, it is true. Many BhagavAtas are already like that.

Shareera Vivaaham:
Between two JeevAthmas in Male and Female Sthoola bodies as per Shastras ‘Saamanya Dharmam.’

Athma Vivaaham:
Between countless Jeevathmas and ONE and ONLY ParamaAthma Sriman Narayanan. This Athma Vivaaham is called Prapatti/Samasrayanam/Nyasam, which relieves us from Samsaram ( janma-karma-jananam) as per Shastras “Vishesha Dharmam”.

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There is a story in GuruParamparai. Swami Embar (Ramanujars Aunt’s son) didnot want to get married. So Swami’s mother went to Swami Ramanujar (Sanyasi) and told her concern. Ramanujar enquired and said Embar to get married. Finally marriage happened, and Swami’s mother was not happy about their marriage life. She went to Ramanujar again and complained. Swami enquired both and said them to have a married life and bring up a Bhagavata child as per Samaanya Dharmam.

Swami Embar replied ” whenever adiyen see adiyens Dharma Pathni, adiyen see the AntarAthma Sriman Narayanan inside her, and adiyen cannot involve in Amangalam activities and she also sees the same BhagavAn in adiyen “. Swami Ramanujar was shocked to hear this as their Vishesha Dharmam (ParamaAthma -JeevaAthma relationship) superceded the Saamanya Dharmam (JeevAthma’s male-female relationship).

Adiyen believe, those who are in this state becomes ‘Athma Bandhus’ and they live their married life together for sake of BhagavAn Happiness and they reach SriVaikuntam together with Acharya Krupai for Nithya Kainkaryam, as the couples thinking is same.

Swami to forgive adiyen for any errors or adiyens misunderstanding from GuruParamparai.

Adiyen Sri Velukkudi Krishna Dasan,
Uyya Oraey Vazhi UdayavAr ThiruvAdi,
Sarvam SriKrisharpanam Asthu.

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