நல்லதுக்காக பொய் சொல்லலாமா அல்லது தவறு சொய்யலாமா?

Updated on December 13, 2019 in General
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இருதியில் ஒரு நல்லது நடக்கும். ஆனால் அது பொய் சொன்னாலோ அல்லது எதேனும் தவறான வழியை கையாண்டால்தான் நடக்கும் என்றால் பொய் சொல்லலாமா?

உதாரணம். ஒருவனுடய வீட்டார்களுக்கு ஸம்பரதாயத்தில் அதிக நாட்டம் இல்லை. ஆனால் அவருக்கு அதிக ஸம்ப்ரதாய பற்று உண்டு. அதனால் அவர் சம்பாதித்ததை கைங்கர்யத்துக்கு செலவு செய்ய பெற்றோர்கள் அனுமதிகவில்லை. அதனால் வீட்டுக்கு தெரியாமலோ அல்லது பொய் சொல்லியோ கைங்கர்யம் செய்தார்…
குற்றவாளியை தண்டித்தல் சரியானது. ஆனால் நேரடியாக சாத்யமிலாததால் ஒரு பொய் சொல்லி தண்டனை வழங்கப்பட்டிருந்தால் சரியா?

இதில் எது பாவம்? எந்த அளவுக்கு பொய் சொன்னால் தவறில்லை? எந்தெந்த நல்லதுக்கு பொய் சொல்லலாம்?

 
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1 on December 9, 2019

Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,

 

Namaskaram Srivatsan Swami,

 

This area is one of adiyen’s favorite subject.

 

In general, we know speaking truth is Punya and opposite is Paapa. However, there is much advanced version as below.

 

Sri Velukkudi Swami has said in the past enpani #190 “Papam can also become Punyam” about a Pramaana slokam that says two things:

 

1) Even If one does Dharma Karyams or speak truth or good behaviour, WITHOUT any involvement of the Supreme Almighty BhagavAn SriKrishna for BhagavAn’s Happiness, then it is accounted as a PAAPAM (SIN) and not Punyam.
2) Even if one does PAAPAM (stealing or speak false etc…) INVOLVING Supreme Almighty BhagavAn SriKrishna for BhagavAn’s Kainkaryam, then it is accounted as a PUNYAM and not Paapam.

Example for 1)
Most Nasthikas (Atheists) or Non-believers of Supreme BhagavAn SriKrishna doing charity work, flood relief help or any other Dharma karyams for their own popularity or just for the sake of doing it and not for popularity, WITHOUT considering BhagavAn SriKrishna as the center of the game, then they accumulate Paapa (no relief for them, unless they change their mind later).

Example 2)
Thirumangai Alwar is an expert in stealing, lying and looted lot of money from Rich Travellers or trespassers plus stole a Big Bhuddha Idol made of Gold with SriRanganatha’s consent and melted it for money? to build the SriRangam Wall as a Kainkaryam to SriKrishna (SriRanganathan), which was considered by BhagavAn as Punya.

 

Overall, BhagavAn SriKrishna created the world and rules for HIS Leelai, so if HE becomes Happy, then HE will waive the standard rules CASE-BY-CASE based on the individual’s MahaVishwasam (Love/Affection) towards HIM, Since HE is the Sarva Shakthan, SarvrvAgyan and no one will know about it expect ourselves and BhagavAn StiKrishna. Other than this state, the standard Dharma Shastram rules applied to all.

 

So let’s Hindsight this event Example 2) in back of the mind, since Adiyen is only sharing what Adiyen has extracted from Swami’s Upanyasams.

 

However, Adiyen’s role model is Thirumangai Alwar and adiyen is a great Fan of our Kaliyan (ThiruMangai Alwar).

Whenever Swami hides the blessings that adiyen need from time to time till Moksham in this birth, then Adiyen APPLY “Kaliyan Rule” as ‘வாள் முனையில் மந்திரம் கொள்’ towards Swami to get any blessings that adiyen need, and adiyen immedietly receives it from Swami without any further questions.

 

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Adiyen Srinivasa (DhoddayAcharyar) Dasan.

on December 10, 2019

Wonderful explanation swami. “பகாவானுக்கு பிடித்தால் தர்மம். இல்லையேல் அதர்மம்” part was excellent.

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Adiyen Charamavathi Dasan ?

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Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,

Also, it is very much coincidence that today is Thirumangai Alwar’s ThiruNakshatram “Kaarthikai maasam, Kaarthikai nakshatram” and devareer and all received our Mangai Mannan (The KING) blessings to clear any dwelling doubhts inside mind through Sri Velukkudi Swami’s ThiruvAdi with ones own Acharya Krupai and common GuruParamparai.

 

Also it is hard to tell what BhagavAn considers and Dharmam and Adharmam unless the situation makes us realize it slowly. But it takes time and long route. Instead, Our Thirumangai Alwar “Kaliyan a.k.a Parakalan” ThiruvAdi is the Short route in this Samsaram and for Kainkaryam and  Moksham, since we know Thirumangai Alwar is the only Alwar who Threatened Sriman NarayanA at Knife Point (Sword / வாள்) to give blessings of ThiruMantram and rest of peaceful life in this Samsaram as seen in Thirumangai Alwars Thaniyan and “Veedu Pari Utsavam” portraying this incident:

 

வழியரோ மாயோனை வாள் வழியால் மந்திரம் கொள் மங்கையர் கோன்

 

Moreover Thirumangai Alwar is the only Alwar who looted money from Rich Travellers inorder to do “Thadhi Aaradhana (food feast)” for SriVashnavas inorder to marry Kumudhavalli Nachiyar. And after marriage, they didnot have kids (against Varna ashrama dharmam) for the sake of Kainkaryam.

Overall, ThiruMangai Alwars lifestyle was deviation from standard Dharma Shastram, but HE was peaceful, since the goal in Alwars each action was based on “SRI KRISHNA’S HAPPINESS and Nothing beyond that” as Swami’s said in Enpani 190 (type 2 category as in above thread).

Adiyen believe, there are many devotees in present days who follow Kaliyan, and adiyen believe that they also follow similar lifestyle with Alwars grace and Acharya ThiruvAdi Bhalam. However, Alwars/Acharyas has many VERSATILE aspects/greatness in their life, but based on our taste and liking, we pick what portion of Alwar/Acharya lifestyle can be applied in individual devotees life and we follow accordingly as Sri Velukkudi Swami has said using a Shastra Vaakyam “Yatha Upasana Thatha Phalam” (whom or what we workship is what we do or get).

 

So Swami has said,
Bhagavanai pattruvadhu is சுத்து வழி,
Mangai Mannanai pattruvadhu சுருக்கு வழி.

So let’s keep chanting Thirumangai Alwars Vazhi Thirunaamam’s daily.

கலந்த திருக் கார்த்திகையில் கார்த்திகை வந்தொன் வாழியே,
வாட்கலியன் பரகாலன் மங்கையர் கோன் வழியே.

 

 

வலம் திகழும் குமுதவல்லி மணவாளன் வாழியே,

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Adiyen Srinivasa DhoddayAcharyar Dasan,
Swami Thirumangai Alwar Thiruvadigalaey Sharanam.

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Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,

 

Based on our conversations with Acharya ThiruvAdi Bhalam, Sri Velukkudi Swami has BLESSED ALL of the devotees linked to Swami one way or the other in today’s Enpani #1586 “What to do on Avatara days of Azhwars Acharyas” about:
1) ThiruMangai Alwar ThiruNakshatram,
2) Nampillai Acharyan Swami ThiruNakshatram
3) Thirupaanalwar ThiruNakshatram linking to Swami NamPaaduvan’s Kaisika Mahatmiyam.

and we devotees should do:
1) Aaradhana to Azhwars Acharyas,
2) Sing their “Naal Paattu”,
3) Sing their “Vazhi Paattu”

Moreover Swami has uploaded short video clips of Thirumangai Alwar and Thirupaanalwar ThiruNakshatram Abhishekam videos in YouTube Velukkudi Discourses.

 

https://youtu.be/-yoJPWl2M74

 

https://youtu.be/96eKREo3178

 

Adiyen Srinivasa (DhoddayAcharyar) Dasan,
Asmadh Acharyan ThiruvAdi Vazhi Vazhi Vazhiye,
Sri Velukkudi Swami ThiruvAdi Vazhi Vazhi Vazhiye,

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Our Swamy is dhayasagar. Adiyen enjoyed watching the videos.
Dhanyosmi
Srimate Ramanujaya Namah
Velukkudi Sri Krishnan Swamy Gurubyo Namah

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