மரணம் அனால் வைகுண்டம் for ALL Ramanuja Sambhandhis (Near Death beautiful Experience)

Updated on May 19, 2019 in Acharyas
12 on July 24, 2018

Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,

Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami  ThiruvAdigalaey Thanjam,

 

Adiyen Swami,

 

Adiyen would like to share some real life experience. 

 

Shamikkanum Swami for writing so long.

 

From ‘GuruParamparai’, when Swami Ramanujar attained ParamaPadham, thousands of Shishyas and Acharyas and followers were terribly heart broken and many died due to heart attack and committed suicide, jumped from Temple Vimaanam as they couln’t bear the seperation of Swami Ramanujar. But, all of them reached Paramapadham in SAME BIRTH due to “Ramanuja Sambhandham”.

 

Shastras says “Athma Hatya (suicide)” is a sin and they wander as pisasu for a while till they get another body, but for Ramanuja Dasargal based on GuruParamparai reference, if we commit suicide for Kainkaryam, or if the Athma leaves the body in whichever way, it will still reach Acharyan ThiruvAdi (Paramapadham/SriVaikuntam) in SAME BIRTH due to “RAMANUJA SAMBHANDHAM, Thayar-Perumal ‘NirHedukai Krupai (causelss mercy), they get Moksham. Alwar says “மரணம் அனால் வைகுண்டம்”.

 

One way to get Ramanuja Sambhandham is to do Samasrayanam/Prapatthi, and other ways as per ‘Prapannamrutham‘ is to be Sambhandhi of Ramanujar. So, Many of us in this Enpani forum has Ramanuja Sambhandham ‘through’ Devareer, since Devareer is a Ramanuja Sambhandhi, so all of the 40,000 or more members will get “Definetly” get Moksham (ParamaPadham) in this SAME BIRTH irrespective of each ones sampradhayams, whether they did prapatthi/samasrsyanam or not. Devareer has been reflecting Ramanujars Karunai to all of us, so we dont worry about Moksham at all, since Thayar-Perumal will deliver due to sambhandham with Devareer, which inturn is Ramanuja sambhandham.

 

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So by being a “SriVelukkudi Dasar“, we all are automatically entitled as “Ramanuja Dasar”. So, there is nothing that anyone in this forum need to worry about Moksham/ SriVaikuntam in same birth.

 

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Maranam is inevitable for any human as we all know. Since, adiyen is a Ramanuja Sambhandhi through Devareer, adiyen focus is more about how to approach Maranam (Death of this shareeram) sooner, so Athma (adiyen) is released and reaches Acharyan ThiruvAdi for Nithya Kainkaryam.

 

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Hence, adiyen wanted to face Maranam considering the above GuruParamparai reference. At the same time, if adiyen try any such activity, but if adiyen didnot die by any chance, then it will be fatal to adiyen & will bring trouble to adiyen and other Adiyars rest of the life. 

 

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So as a first step, adiyen wanted to get the “FEEL” of Maranam instead of “ACTUAL” Maranam. So adiyen went to “Bungee Jumping“.

 

It was awesome, body was falling down and adiyen felt that sooner Athma will go up towards Acharyan ThiruvAdi (SriVaikuntam). Suddenly, the bungee jump chord pulled adiyen upwards, since the ‘CONTROL’ was not with adiyen, and adiyen didnot hit the ground. That was a disappointment, but nice experience.

 

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So adiyen was thinking, how to experience “near death” but having the ‘control’ with adiyen.

 

Then came up with “Sky Diving“. Couple of hours training. The 3 or 4 dives with the trainer and then later we can dive alone. That was an amazing dive from sky. Adiyen was instructed to eject “Parachute” when 1000~2000 feet above ground, if not adiyen will hit the ground and die. That was helpful, since “CONTROL” was with adiyen

 

Not ejecting  parachute = reaching ParamaPadham, and adiyen was happy.

 

Adiyen dived as per instruction, it was a “free fall” appeared like ‘no gravity’. Then while getting closer to ground at 2000 feet, adiyen held the parachute button, but didnot eject it, and the travel speed towards ground was much faster after 2000 feet. But, if adiyen miss to eject at 1000 feet limit, then adiyens ‘Body’ will definitely hit the ground and adiyens ‘Athma’ will reach Acharyan ThiruvAdi in SriVaikuntam, and adiyen wanted to face that moment.

 

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Here was the twist in downfall, the Maya Kannan “SriKrishna” made adiyen think/remind about adiyens Acharya  Niyamanam to do “Anonymous Kainkaryam” to Devareer during the 1000~2000 feet above ground travel. Adiyen quickly pressed the parachute button at 1800 feet, but parachute didnot eject. Adiyen was sweating now. It was ironic that, when adiyen wanted to face Maranam, parachute was working, but when adiyen didnot want to face maranam, parachute was not working. Adiyen kept pressing every second, but parachute didnot eject at all. When it was almost 1200 ft, adiyen gave-up all efforts and closed eyes, ready to face maranam, chanted Acharya Thaniyan and thought about Devareer. This moment was like “Droupadhi sharanagathy”. Adiyen wanted to live to do “Anonymous Kainkaryam” to Devareer as per Acharya niyamanam.

 

After few minutes, adiyen was feeling a pleasant breeze, and adiyen felt that adiyen already died and reached SriVaikuntam.  When adiyen opened eyes, adiyen noticed the parachute was ON, and adiyen didnot hit the ground and die. After safe landing by gliding, adiyen was informed later that, the professional sky diver was following behind adiyen in a very close distance and the professional diver ejected adiyens parachute.

 

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Finally, adiyen realized that, for Ramanuja Sambhandhi’s ” Death will Definitely Give Moksham”, but “WHEN” will be decided by Maya Kannan SriKrishna. Then adiyen understood, though acharyas/shisyas/followers of Swami Ramanujar jumped and committed suicide due to unbearable separation of Swami Ramanujar, SriKrishna also had to make the final approval that during their jump, let their Athma separate from their body and reach SriVainkutam. In adiyens case, adiyen jump result was decided by Acharya Niyamanam to do Bhooloka ‘Anonymous Kainkaryam’  to Devareer for a while.

 

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Then above incident was couple of years back, and then on, adiyen stopped adventuring Maranam, and let Acharyan and SriKrishna decide “WHEN” it should happen.

 

Then adiyen was waiting and thinking, how to do “Anonymous Kainkaryam” to Devareer without telling who adiyen is, though Devareer already know adiyen in detail and has been blessing adiyen in adiyen ‘Original Dasa Nama form’. Thats when the dharma sandeha forum door opened for adiyen to do  anonymoys kainkaryam to Devareer in ‘KongilPiratti’ form. Recently also, Devareer blessed adiyen in adiyens original dasa nama form. Its been challenging for adiyen to keep two forms and do Kainkaryam, but with Acharya Krupai, both forms kainkaryam are going smooth without overlap.

 

It is a interesting Kainkaryam that adiyens Acharyan has given to adiyen to serve Devareer.

 

Still, when adiyen go back and think about the bungee jumping and sky diving experience of Maranam, adiyen get goosebumps, and adiyen get different ‘arthams (meanings) about the incidents based on Devareer upanyasams. Like:

 

1) Bungee jumping = Upasana Maargam.

The chord (our Muyarchi) is the barrier to reach the Ground (Paramapadham). So, if the chord is cut, we will hit the ground.

 

 

2) Sky Diving with ‘Control’ in our hand =  Athma Nivedhanam (Sharanagathy).

Sharanagathy on Perumals lotus feet Directly bypassing Acharyas. In this case, we need ‘MahaVishwasam’ like Droupadhi. If not fear will surround us, and that Sharanagathy will not work (No Moksham). Also none one till date

 

 

3) Sky Diving with ‘ Conttol Not’ in our hands = Anthima Upaya Nishtai (Acharyar Abhimaanamey Uddharakam).

Sharanagathy through Acharyas lotus feet and getting a Sambhandham with a “UTTHAMA SAMBHANDHI” of Swami Ramanujar like Devareer (Professional diver who saves all of us in this Enpani form for Moksham). Adiyen pray that everyone of us by having sambhandham with Devareer in some way or other way by doing kinchit kainkaryam to Devareer gets Ramanuja Sambhandham and Moksham in SAME BIRTH.

 

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If adiyen,

* Eject Parachute, then ‘Anonymous’ Kainkaryam to Devareer in Bhoolokam,

* Dont Eject Parachute, then ‘Direct’ Kainkaryam to Devareer in SriVaikuntam.

 

Adiyen think, this is called “இங்கேயா அங்கேயா” Kainkarya Nyayam.

Both ways, it is Kainkaryam for adiyen and Devareer is in a MUST receiving end, no choice left out for Devareer.

 

பரமாத்மா ஸ்வரூபத்திற்கு கைங்கர்யம் “பெற்று கொள்வது” அழகு,

ஜீவாத்மா ஸ்வரூபத்திற்கு கைங்கர்யம் “செய்வது” அழகு 

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Adiyen’ai Shamikkanum for lengthy personal story, but adiyen felt Devareer should know about it. Like this, adiyen also feel, each Bhagavatas have their own stories relating to Devareer, which will be interesting to know for other adiyaars, if they share.

 

Adiyen Sri Velukkudi Krishna Dasan, 

Uyya Oraey Vazhi UdayavAr ThiruvAdi, 

Sarvam SriKrisharpanam Asthu. 

 
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9 on August 4, 2018

Sri:

“thousands of Shishyas and Acharyas and followers were terribly heart broken and many died due to heart attack ” – Adiyen still alive after the seperation of my AchAryan. This shows how bad adiyen is. Without an ounce of bhakthi.

Dasanudasan

on August 4, 2018

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

“committed suicide”

Krishna Premi Anna in Ramanuja Vaibhavam said “RAmAnujar aksed not to commit suicide as it will hinder the moksham”

Dasanudasan

on August 4, 2018

Not sure why people will climb temple vimaanam as it is shAstra viruddham

“jumped from Temple Vimaanam”

Dasanudasan

on August 4, 2018

This may not be true
“But, all of them reached Paramapadham in SAME BIRTH due to “Ramanuja Sambhandham”
because Udayavar before departure said “not to commit suicide”. This will give a message to bhAgavathAs that “if we commit suicide we can reach our AchAryan”.

We should die naturally “Vaitha naal varai”

Adiyen
Dasanudasan

on August 4, 2018

Srimathe Rangaramanuja Mahadesikaya Namaha

Kshamikkanum,
Adiyen really surprised and confused about this lOkam.

Why we need to face our death?
Are we facing our birth?

Let us not face both. Perumal is there to face. Let devar think about sAdA kainkaryam to EmperumAn and be pallAndu

Don’t worry Swamy

Dasanudasan

on August 4, 2018

Now we know why we are trying to avoid foreign & adventure?
Namakku idhellAm othu varAdhu
Thayir sAdham sApdanum mudinjA kainkaryam pannanum KshEmamA irukkanum 🙂
Dasanudasan

on August 4, 2018

Let us approach life & not death – Vikram Srinivasan
Nice la 🙂

on August 4, 2018

Seamy this requires correction

” if we commit suicide for Kainkaryam, or if the Athma leaves the body in whichever way, it will still reach Acharyan ThiruvAdi (Paramapadham/SriVaikuntam) in SAME BIRTH due to “RAMANUJA SAMBHANDHAM”

No chance. Sri RAmAnujar his holiness himself did not agree and where will be shAstra pramANam?

Dasanudasan

on August 4, 2018

Swamy,

Just kidding “since the ‘CONTROL’ was not with adiyen, and adiyen didnot hit the ground. That was a disappointment, but nice experience.”

Devar should have tried without chord Swamy and thought of bhaktha PrahlAdhan and could have held your chest 🙂

Dasanudasan

on August 4, 2018

Swamy,

“the professional sky diver was following behind adiyen in a very close distance and the professional diver ejected adiyens parachute.” –

Before this, adiyen thought devar would say “Then adiyen woke up from dream not knowing what to do” 🙂

It was nice experience to read another Ramanuja sambandhi’s experience Swamy.

Again suicide for any reason is not accepted even for Udayavar sambandhis.

Even Velukkudi Krishnan Swamy will NOT ACCEPT THIS

Signing off…

Dasanudasan

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Sri Ramanuja Munaye Namaha,
Sri Velukkudi Krishnan Swami Guruvae Namaha,

Dear Bhagavata,

There are slso some post statements on the above thread which adiyen said

“Then above incident was couple of years back, and then on, adiyen stopped adventuring Maranam, and let Acharyan and SriKrishna decide “WHEN” it should happen”.

Adiyen Sri Velukkudi Krishna Dasan,
Uyya Oraey Vazhi UdayavAr ThiruvAdi,
Sarvam SriKrisharpanam Asthu

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0 on May 19, 2019

Swamy
“many died due to heart attack and committed suicide”
Adiyen still.alive after my Acharyan Srimushnam Andavan
No bhakthi at all for me
Dasanudasan

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