Samsaris who are past friends picturing sri vaishnavas As losers and have no life?

Updated on September 26, 2020 in General

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Samsaris who are past friends picturing sri vaishnavas as losers and have no life?

How can I overcome this as an budding srivaishnava ?

 
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5 on September 18, 2020

Engage yourself more in Bhagwat Vishayam Upanayasams, to start with, Srimad Bhagwatam

Thank you Swami🙏

Respect to one srivaishnava and non respect to another srivaishnava,Great சுவாமி 😇

Udayavar swamy, namaskaram. It is evident that your message is not actually to Ramanuja Parakalan swamy, but somehow got posted here.

If your message is meant for me, THANK YOU very much. It is likely I am blind to my fault of not respecting another vaishnava. Thank you for helping me see it. If you don’t mind, kindly help me see my fault more specifically so that I will be able to address it within my heart and correct myself.

My apology to you and everyone on this forum if my conduct has given you concern.

adiyen dasan.

No no the message was not related to you swami,it was meant for only ramanuja parakalan swamy if you see this swamis response to my post and other bhagavata post ,you can see it swami,adiyen take it easy anyway சுவாமி 😇

adiyen.

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Udayavar swamy, Namaskaram.

Bhagavad Gita Chapter 2 verse 69 is pasted below. Please hear upanyasam on this verses and study.

या निशा सर्वभूतानां तस्यां जागर्ति संयमी |
यस्यां जाग्रति भूतानि सा निशा पश्यतो मुने: || 69||

yā niśhā sarva-bhūtānāṁ tasyāṁ jāgarti sanyamī
yasyāṁ jāgrati bhūtāni sā niśhā paśhyato muneḥ

In brief, the 69th verse says what is night for common people is wakeful time for those interested in spiritual path, and what is wakeful time for common people is night for those interested in spiritual path.

Commoners are wakeful for engaging in sense enjoyment and are lazy for spiritual progress. Whereas spiritualists are wakeful for spiritual activities but lazy for sense enjoyment.

So, when commoners identify us as a loser, we can rejoice that we are actually making progress in the path of success – the true, eternally lasting success that really matters and that kind of success that does not depend on our karma! When they denounce us for not pursuing material possessions or material success, we can feel grateful to our acharyan for pulling us out of the rat race for ariticial, temporary euphoria of success and acheivement. And pray for sustained intelligence to make sustained progress in our attachment to Perumal and detachment to material yard sticks.

 

The following verse (#70) is quoted by our Swamy very often:

आपूर्यमाणमचलप्रतिष्ठं
समुद्रमाप: प्रविशन्ति यद्वत् |
तद्वत्कामा यं प्रविशन्ति सर्वे
स शान्तिमाप्नोति न कामकामी || 70||

āpūryamāṇam achala-pratiṣhṭhaṁ
samudram āpaḥ praviśhanti yadvat
tadvat kāmā yaṁ praviśhanti sarve
sa śhāntim āpnoti na kāma-kāmī

Although rivers keep flowing into the ocean continuously the level of the ocean does not increase and ‘overflow’ into the land. Likewise, even if desires for sense enjoyment keep flowing from all directions, even if comments from our less fortunate friends sometimes do tempt us, we are advised to remember this slokam and be like the ocean – not act according to demands of the senses, instead remain fixed in out attitude of servitude to acharyan and Perumal. 

adiyen dasan

 

Such an benevolence from devreer swami🙏🙏🙏 adiyen sensing genuine care.

Udayavar swamy, namaskaram.

I am simply repeating what I have heard from our Swamy and other achayas. If you are sensing ‘genuine care’ you must be somehow connecting to our acharyas mercy… despite my short comings. 

Thank you… it is because of your question I am somehow used as an instrument in the transmission process of acharyas’ mercy flowing to you. I am very fortunate.

adiyen dasan. 

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4 on September 22, 2020

Just slap them with words. Raise your voice and be loud and clear – Get the hell out of here 🙂

I’m sorry but this is the way to deal with nonsense people who disrespect us

Radhakrishna

Sri Radhakrishna, namaskaram. kindly reconsider your response.

Our acharyas have not suggested this way of responding. Such response could arise out of our ego and rajo-gunam.

Step one: resolve the conflict in our own heart and be clear of what is correct and what is not.

Step two: See if there is any way we can gently extend genuine help to those who have not yet seen the light of spiritual life.

Step tthree: If we are not able to do step 2, then try and minimise interaction with those people. One best way to help them learn is to set the example for right living. If we live a contentded happy, healthy, gentle life, eventually they will be convinced by our example.

 adiyen dasan.

on September 23, 2020

I don’t reconsider my words, because I own it and I don’t need or ever let anyone to censor it

I don’t know which Acharya is that who preaches tolerate the insults against Sri Vaishnavas and act like coward. If he is Acharya he will fight like lion against who bring down the name of Vaishnavas

ha ha ha!

on September 23, 2020

Laughing at others is sign of immaturity.

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0 on September 23, 2020

Also if one’s own blood doesn’t boil by seeing insult against Vaishnavas, and doesn’t fight tooth and nail with the one who insult’s vaishnavas but rather resort’s to coward type of be satvik and all are not vaishnavas but are dead persons.

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Now let us have some sincere conversation, RadhaKrishna.

Yes, this is a forum to discuss dharma; and when there is an apparent breech of dharma we seek clarification on that so that the record is set right for as long as these posts are available to the public.

Now, here is a posting which implies “vaishnava acharyas are bold like a lion; when some souls who are bewildered by the allurements of the material world, out of their misplaced concern for their friends try to motivate them towards the material allurements, the lion like acharyas will not hesitate to say “go to hell” to these bewildered lambs.”

Such a statement about Vaishnava acharyas is close to blaspheme. Because no vaishnava acharya will do that. When someone misrepresents vaishnava acharya in a forum like this, it is the duty of other members to highlight the fallacy to the person who has posted such blasphemous statement, just to make that person accounatable for what he/she posts. Whether or not the person realises his mistake, whether or not the person acknowledges his mistake is completely upto them. Atleast for our part we must step up and request that such self-concocted statements bordering on blaspheme do not belong to this forum.

I have just done my humble effort in this direction.

My genuine heartfelt best wishes to you for you to continue to contribute to this forum in a manner befitting to this august group. Thank you.  

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Some more clarification.

As you rightly pointed out, this forum is for discussion on dharma. By definition dharma is that which is prescribed by sastram and preached by acharyas. So, in all our discussions we must be representing our acharyas teachings and not present something based on our gut feeling. Representing our acharyas’ teachings as purely as possible is not “insecurity of free thinking and rationality” as indicated by you. Rather, representing our acharyas’ teachings is total security in their shelter and full confidence in their teachings. This confidence arises from the rational conclusion that our acharyas’ teachings are far superior compared to our own thought processes based on rajo gunam and tamo gunam.

Our acharyas prescribe us to practise satva gunam in all aspects of life beginning with our speech. (eg..Bhagavad Gita chapter 17.15). We should follow that. But instead if we choose to follow the dictates of our rajo gunam or tamo gunam, we may end up speaking words that are prideful or destructive (or a mix of these depending on the mix of rajo- tamo- gunam we are situated in.

It is really nice to see your enthusiastic participation in this forum. Just today you have replied in so many posts. But kindly revisit those posts and evaluate yourself in how many of them you have based the reply on acharyas’ teachings and in how many you have based on your partial learning and gut feelings. Just one example to help you see for yourself: In the post “Last rite ritual by daughter’ your response suggests that both the male and female progeny can do the last rites. But that is not what sastram says. Sastram does make a distinction. While your statements about the soul being free of gender is indeed true, your interpretation of the fact and application in this context does not align with sastric conclusions. Therefore it is always important to see what sastram says and how acharyas guide us. Always, if not always atleast in a dharma forum, our discussions must be based on poorvacharyas words. 

Kindly understand my intention in writing this is to genuinely help you. Kindly bear with me if I am presumptuous. 

You don’t have to respond to this if you don’t feel like. I am not keen to make it more embarrassing for you. In future postings, please double check your words before you submit; not only our intention but our words must also be in line with acharyas’ teachings.

Thank you very much.

my best wishes to you.

adiyen dasan.

on September 23, 2020

I’m not embarrassed or should be by your words and it doesn’t matter what you say to me. I say what I should say. I didn’t even read your reply, because it’s of no use to me.

You just want to censor of whom you don’t agree. That’s it.

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Whow! you seem to have responded to the concluding part of message although you ‘didn’t even read’ the message. So sweet of you! take care. samatha iru.

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ஒன்று மட்டும் சத்தியம், பரமாத்மா மற்றும் ஆச்சார்யாரின் பாதம் பற்றிய யாரும் தலைகுனிய தேவையில்லை, மகா விசுவாசம் ஒன்று மட்டுமே போதும் 🙏🙏

நன்றி ஸ்வாமிகளே

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