Namaskaram Swami,

Please listen to Enpani 294, 419. As Swami has said in multiple upanyasams, if the couple understands the true purpose of marriage, which is serving the Bhagavan and his Bhagavatas, and not for self-enjoyment, divorce, and many issues will disappear. Koorathalwar, broke the negative impact of dosam that Andal had by clarifying and living this true purpose. 

adiyen,
Ramanuja dasan.  

adiyen believe that we should certainly care as it sets a wrong example to common people and derails the foundations of Sanatana dharma. so whatever in our capability, we can do we should try to pass on the message of true purpose of marriage to the younger generation that will avoid this is in the future. adiyen’s nephew went through a similar situation influenced by these high-profile divorces and they are also pretty rich young educated god worshiping couple. We went through a rough patch recently, which could’ve been avoided but adiyen realized it so late. 

Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,

Namaskaram Swami’s,

There is a concept called “Yathercheya SUkritham” that Vishista Advaita Poorvacharyas has said which adiyen has heard in Velukkudi Swami’s upanyasams.

What it means is, “a human receiving accidental blessings from BHagavAN Sriman Narayana even though their action was NOT with an intention to do a Punya karma or a Kainkaryam knowingly” from Velukkudi Swami’s upanyasams as:

என் ஊரை சொன்னாய்,

என் பேரை சொன்னாய்,

என் அடியார்க்கு நிழல் குடுத்தாய்

etc….

Meaning:

• One person is walking on street outside a Perumal Temple, but he or she doesn’t like to go inside temple to pray HIM, but due to a sudden rain, he or she takes shelter on the temple premises by telling the crowd as “please move, I need to get into PaarthaSaarthay Perumal Temple (என் பேரை சொன்னாய்), then BHagavAn considers as a good credit (punya karma) as பரவாயில்லையே, நம்ம கோயிலுக்குள் நம்மளை கும்பிட வந்து இருக்கானே even though his/her intention was deliberate to go inside temple.
• Another person who is residing on the streets of a Perumal temple, built a Thinnai (front porch/patio in modern terms) to play cards which is prohibited by Shastras. Definitely, he will acquire sins, but he acquires punya due to a different scenario. Like Yatri who come to visit the temple couldn’t find a lace to sleep that night, so the devotee choses the front porch of that home and sleeps over night and HE left next morning to visits Temple. SO BhagvAn gives credits (Punya karma) to the person who built front porch though his intention was to play cards and as a Satram for Yatris (என் அடியார்க்கு நிழல் குடுத்தாய்)
• Another person says, lets go to Alwar THirunagari and build a pop soda factory on the banks of Thamara BHarani river, which is actually true (not recommended by shastars) BHagavAN gives credit (punya karma) to the person as என் ஊரை சொன்னாய்,

So one receives Yathercheya SUkritham for all such actions done. So these Materialistic persons grow more due to their PUnya karma increasing accidentally, because one or the other way, their developments are being utilized by a SriVaishnava knowingly or unknowlingly.

In the above list, there is a Materialistic developer whose name is missed but he is not divorced but he has received Yathercheya SUkritham from SriKRishna before he died. His name is Steve Jobs (Apple Owner). 

Before he started a company, he was very poor and struggled in his life, but after having SriKrishna Prasadham knowingly or unkowingly, his life changed due to SriKRishna’s blessings due to Yathercheya SUkritham.

You can read or listen his full speech in this link, but a small portion from his speech for the Yathercheya SUkritham section as follows.

I didn’t have a dorm room, so I slept on the floor in friends’ rooms, I returned Coke bottles for the 5¢ deposits to buy food with, and I would walk the 7 miles across town every Sunday night to get one good meal a week at the Hare Krishna temple. I loved it. And much of what I stumbled into by following my curiosity and intuition turned out to be priceless later on.

Text of Steve Jobs’ Commencement address (2005) (stanford.edu)

Steve Jobs’ 2005 Stanford Commencement Address – YouTube

So these Materialistic developers either married or divorced doesn’t matter?, once their credit (punya karma) hits rock bottom, then they will face the hardships and come to Sharnagathy on BHagavAN Sriman Narayana Lotus feet on this Janma or some Janma, since Punya KArma or Paapa Karma doens’t lead to Moksham, just BHagavAN krupai Leads to MOksham.

FDI,

Other REAL TIME examples in our period:

1. Previous TN Chief Minister Karunanidhi though talks against Perumal, still got Yathercheya SUkritham  from Perumal, since he was cooperative in adding Alwargal Tamizh in one of the Tamizh maanadu and was also quitely listening to Velukkudi SriKrishnan Swami’s speech as in this link. Due to the blessings from Perumal, he took Swami RamanujAR serial afterwards though people don’t understand why he took that serial. Its because of this Perumal’s Yathercheya SUkritham as என் அடியார் பேச்சை கேட்டாய். Either he will take a better birth next time or due to Velukkudi Swami’s blessings, he could be in Moksham. We never know. Velukkudi Sri.U.Ve. Sri.Krishnan SwAmi’s speech at Tamilnadu CM Function on ” AzhwArgal thamizh” – YouTube
2. Actor Kamalahaasan in Vishwaroopam movie starting seen shows that he protects the Ranagnatha Perumal Idol from the Kirumikanda cholan Raja and speaks out loud says “Swami Raamanuja” when  though not intended to have BHakthi on Swami RamanujAR lotus feet, he still received Yathercheya SUkritham  from Perumal as என் பேரை சொன்னாய், due to which he became so humble at a later time when he went to get Aasrivadham of Swami RamanujAr lineage Sanyasi Acharya Matam during one of his movie shooting paapanasam. Adiyen could not find now the pictures of Sanyasi Achraya sitting on the Raised Gyana Peedam and Kamalahaasan sitting on the floor wearing veshti with his legs folded and conversing with the sanyasi Acharya. So adiyen couldn’t post the link now.

Why Adiyen picked these two real time examples are to show how one can be Odd or Naasthika in their life, still can get Perumal blessings if they do any action accidentally that is in favour of BhagavAn and HIS devotees, though their actual intention was not to accomplish a good dharmik deed.

This Yathercheya SUkritham leads one to increase punya karmas, so the idea of BHagavAN is that, it will help them to reduce their further paapa actions, so that at some point they also become devotees of Permual by doing SHarnagathy.

Todays’ Aasthika’s (Thesist) are either past Naaasthikaas (Athesist) or Materialistic enjoyers.

Adiyen (ElayaAlwar) Srinivasa (DhoddayacharyAr) Dasan.

Namaskaram swami,

Amazing explanation ElayaAlwar swami. Beautifully explained the “yadruchaya sukrutam” concept.

This is the answer adiyen was looking for as specific reason. Could not correlate or come up with “yadruchaya sukrutam” concept for these divorces due to adiyen’s agnyanam.

Would like to discuss more on these fine aspects (Vignyanam) in this forum apart from ritualistic doubts.

Thank you all.

Adiyen

Next time, should refrain from using words like “beautifully” as Dharma says not to do Nara stuti. Instead use words like “good”

Kshamyatham

Does the chart mean that if you want to be amongst the top richest, you have to divorce? 😀

Adhu avA personals.

Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha,

Namaskaram Ram2000 BhagavAta,

Regarding the LIVE incidents of Perumal’s Yathercheya SUkritham, as mentioned above about these two persons, additionally their life ending story can be classified into two categories 1) Paragatha Sweekaryam, 2) Swagatha Sweekaryam, relating to Velukkudi SriKrishnan Swami’s upanyasam. If we just listen and don’t try to correlate the upanyasams with LIVE examples, then it will be very tough to REMEMBER SWAMI’S UPANYASAMS IN OUR MEMORY. So to help out all devotees, adiyen will share with pictures, so our memory gets strong.

1) Paragatha Sweekaryam: means BhagavAn coming towards us to bless us and take to Moksham without we going and holding HIS lotus feet. 

Like SriRama during HIS exile went and blessed Guhan. This type us 100% successful for Kainkaryam and Moksham, since Guhan didnot make any effort or struggled to get SriRama’s blessing.

2) Swagatha Sweekaryam: means, we going and doing Sharanagathy at BhagavAn lotus feet, which will succeed only after lot of struggle.

Like, Vibhishana Azhvan when flew from SriLanka to do Sharagathy on SriRama’s lotus feet, He was stopped by Sugreeva as He thought, it was some cunning plan of Ravana to kill SriRama. So there we lot of arguments, testimonies that happened for hours between Sugreeva, SriRama and other subordinate’s, before they could understand the true good nature of Vibhishana Azhvan and accept Him as a surrendered devotee.

Now LIVE examples as said in thread above:

1) Paragatha Sweekaryam: Karunanidhi ex-CM with video link above where Velukkudi SriKrishnan Swami self went to Tamizh Maanaadu to bless and change Karunanidhi mind and the people around him through Swami’s powerful and lucid speech, due to which Karunanadhi took Swami Ramanujar tv serial and people chanted Ramanuja noorAndhadhi before his demise. Many half knowledge SriVaishnavaa didn’t like these happenings, since they saw Karunanidhi as an Atheist (his past life and not the transformed life after Swami’s blessings). This is like many didnot understand SriRama is BhagavAn NarayanA Himself and they thought HIM as human. Same way many think Velukkudi SriKrishnan Swami as another SriVaishnava devotee without knowing Velukkudi Swami is RamanujAr Himself.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thenewsminute.com/article/video-vedic-chants-atheist-karunanidhis-home-tirumala-tv-buys-ramanuja-show-37454%3famp

Velukkudi Swami blessing Karunanidhi

2) Swagatha Sweekaryam: Kamalahaasan going to AcharyAn Swami Vaanamaamalai JeeyAr Swami mutt for a different movie shooting purpose, to get permission from AcharyAn Swami. The interesting part is, Kamalahaasan is in Swaroopam and Sitting on ground with obedience and  AcharyAn above him on Gyana peedam. Here, AcharyA is pleased with Kamalahaasan visit as we can see in Acharyas smile, since Kamalahaasan seems humble with panivu infrontvof AcharyA. Perumal gives Moksham in same Janma to such persons as well due to the “Panchomopaya Margham” 5th method concept to reach Moksha also called as “Acharya Abhimaaname Uddharakam” since the AcharyAr is Swami Ramanujar Sambhandha AcharyAr.

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So the moral of these LIVE examples imply that we definitely get Moksham and Nithya Kainkaryam in same Janma due to Swami Ramanujar Sambhandha, when one of the Atheist already got transformed and reached Moksha and another Atheist is in pipeline to reach Moksha in same Janma.

If anyone including senior devotees and speakers have any doubht in these LIVE stories, then adiyen have more examples that adiyen can pull from Adiyen’s memory with AcharyA ThiruvAdi Bhalam, if needed.

Adiyen (ElayaAlwar) Srinivasa (DhoddayacharyAr) Dasan.

Why are we not talking about poor people getting dirvorced?

See, even we are interested only in rich people getting dirvorced.

We call it Dharma Sandeha?

Dasanudasan

If the question “Money is there” why then divorce?
Then logical. Money is not everything. A human relationship is between emotions.

The same Bill Gates said “I love my daughter discovering the world” when she was a baby.

A love married couple put the quote

“Irandu manangal kalandha piragu naalu vedam epadi pirikkum?”

My question: When did Vedam separate you?

Pidichirukku kalyanam panninta apuram vedathai edharkku vambukku izhukkara?

But Point correct dhaney.

Living closely inter-caste is better than getting divorced as brahmins correct?

Dasanudasan